Why is Camille so strong?

JavelinJoe·Jan 23, 2017·2 votes·2,411 views

Is it her ult, her Q, her passive, or her E? I get the ult is pretty powerful in utility, and her E makes her pretty mobile in not on CD, but are those the only reasons?

I have played a few games on her (albeit in normals since I cant ever in ranked queue due to her being perma-banned), and while she seems like she can be strong, she also does not feel too overpowered. Her early game is pretty poor since she has no wave clear and only 2 damaging abilities for attacking minions. Her trading is alright from her passive and small stun, but usually the opponent can return a decent amount back too.

So what makes her so powerful that she is 100% pick/ban? I get that high elo may be worse than lower in player's skill levels with her, but idk.

15 Comments

OurLestradeJan 23, 20172 votes

She's quite the jack of all trades and she's good at most of them. I think it's less the individual things and more the combination in one package.

JavelinJoeJan 23, 20172 votes

So kinda like how Karma is?

AsteckJan 23, 20172 votes

Her ult is an extremely good lockdown ability and her mobility is a little overbearing. Her laning phase is weak but lategame she often does 800-1100 true damage to you (based on 3rd item) while it becomes extremely hard to run away while also being unable to fight back due to her generally building tank after Finishing TriForce-Hydra. This is from a mid-lane main that has never played Camille though, so I do not know everything about her playstyle.

TL;DR: Mixture of all of them. Laning phase is weakness, but is extremely mobile mid and late while doing a lot of damage and easily locking down squishy targets.

JavelinJoeJan 23, 20171 votes

She really need to get ahead or go into late game. Similar to say, Fiora, where She build some damage some tank, but you really need a lead or you wont be able to do a whole lot with your ult besides the lockdown. Her W is really hard to land vs a mobile target too and has a long cast time. I would say that she cant hard carry a game, but she can make picks really easily and be disruptive in fights. I would say she is closer though to a supportive fighter rather than a full blown carry if anything.

NiyumiJan 23, 20171 votes

She's good, but not as good as people think she is. She's just banned so much that no one knows how to play against her, and when she does get into a game, people freak out and don't think about how to actually play against her. (Hello, Illaoi!)

JavelinJoeJan 23, 20171 votes

I also thought that Illaoi would be a huge counter. Being trapped inside her ult is the best thing for Illaoi's Ult. I also think Darius and Kennen would be pretty good into her too.

NiyumiJan 23, 20171 votes

So many champs can just wipe the floor with Camille it's not even funny. But people are too fucking dense to realize that.

BBQChicken AlertJan 24, 20171 votes

Yeah, but having the biggest counter to camille be decided in champion select rather than in game is a huge problem.

5050BSJan 23, 20171 votes

She has everything you want (like a few champs just better) The only weakness is to hard CC (but that is almost everyone's Weakness)

RexSaurJan 23, 20171 votes

The problem is that all of her spells are overpowered individually, and of course that means the champion is busted as hell.

JavelinJoeJan 23, 20171 votes

I can see her passive, Q, and Ult being overpowered. But her W is not even close to being OP, and her E is on a fairly long CD but is no more OP than say an Amumu Q or an Ali WQ combo.

paisyJan 24, 20171 votes

She has knives for legs dude

DethflashJan 25, 20171 votes

I think its a combination of being able to use sheen from Trinity force item 3078 to increase the true dmg on Q by 200%, (which Q only cost 25 mana at ALL RANKS) but then add max health % dmg and a heal on W, then E (50 mana at ALL RANKS) which grants a large attack speed buff on impact against champions, then more max health % dmg in the form of magic dmg from R, ult. Though she has a lot going for her, i think only increasing her Q and E mana cost, then increase the max cooldown on E (not early game but for late game), and make her true dmg Q not be able to use sheen, and then Camille would be quite a bit more balanced