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Let's look at this piece by piece.
That's great but if you come across as belligerent and throwing buzzwords or pointing out bad evidence, you're not gonna be taken seriously by anyone except the people who side with him, who are mostly swayed by confirmation bias.
Not sure you even know what most of those mean. Moving on.
Boards wasn't active back then since boards literally started around the end of season 4. General Discussion spent just as much time complaining though. It was just buried under mounds and mounds of shitposts and people trying to get specific threads to page 2 to post hentai (I'm dead serious this was a thing) so the complaining was balanced out.
There's also the matter of what i call the "RuneScape effect". As people become more efficient and less worried about fun, that might take a toll on casual players who have a more shallow enjoyment of the game and suddenly find the only champion they play nerfed with no clear context for them. If that's the case, you can't really blame Riot for that since that's 100% the doing of the players who intend to minmax the game.
What points? He started spouting shit without providing actual evidence, and then discounting people because they don't see the game the same way he does.
He called a game mode evil for fuck's sake.
Hasn't that always been the case?
Have you seen what happens when they're kept on? It's like URF when that was on for weeks and people bitched that it should be balanced because a meta was developed.
You have a lot of semi-valid points such as too much emphasis on botlane or skin prices but they're covered up by buzzword phrases such as anti-fun and what parts of a bad argument you chose to defend. Last but not least there's this little bit right here.
You insult me for my ego and tell me that if I get more humble I'll have more fun. But here's the thing.
1 - I already said I have fun playing the game.
2 - you literally said the game isn't fun anymore
But I guess your whole argument is a reflection of your enjoyment of League. You don't enjoy it because you don't know what you're doing.
I'm just going to respond to the one thing that really made me scowl at my screen:
But I guess your whole argument is a reflection of your enjoyment of League. You don't enjoy it because you don't know what you're doing.
I know what I am doing wholeheartedly, it's simply the fact that I do not want to play in the way the meta demands. I do not want to play extremely passive in lane and then win the game via bot lane. I do not want to have to rely on ONE member of my team being the ADC. I do not want to have to play champions that are conceptually boring.
Additionally, you say that I don't know what I am doing, and yet.....I can state that I can play most champions in this game to at least a low diamond level (exception to Nami and most supports; I just don't like them) and the champions I specialise in I do think I could easily make it to the top of my server if I chose to conform to the meta in my playstyle. Sure, you can say everyone says this, but I've been playing the game long enough to know my limits.
Now, back to the matter at hand. I don't enjoy the game because the game as a whole doesn't reward "fun" playstyles, it rewards playstyles that are purely just used for winning. In this case it's completely devoting your time in game to bot lane whenever possible since the state of ADCs is currently quite unfair.
My whole argument isn't just about me, it's moreso about Riot's poor decision-making skills as they shifted the primary focus of this video GAME (keyword, game, game = fun [usually]).
Boards wasn't active back then since boards literally started around the end of season 4. General Discussion spent just as much time complaining though. It was just buried under mounds and mounds of shitposts and people trying to get specific threads to page 2 to post hentai (I'm dead serious this was a thing) so the complaining was balanced out.
There's also the matter of what i call the "RuneScape effect". As people become more efficient and less worried about fun, that might take a toll on casual players who have a more shallow enjoyment of the game and suddenly find the only champion they play nerfed with no clear context for them. If that's the case, you can't really blame Riot for that since that's 100% the doing of the players who intend to minmax the game.
I can't argue against any of this because I know all of this is rather true. However I do have one comment, I think that players intending to minmax the game were strongly encouraged by Riot's forcefulness in creating metas.
You insult me for my ego and tell me that if I get more humble I'll have more fun. But here's the thing.
1 - I already said I have fun playing the game.
2 - you literally said the game isn't fun anymore
I "insulted" your ego because you seemed to have this idea in your head that you were superior to a fellow player in every single way, which is a poor way of thinking and arguing. Moreover I don't think I actually insulted you, I just said you should work on it; it's friendly advice.
Have you seen what happens when they're kept on? It's like URF when that was on for weeks and people bitched that it should be balanced because a meta was developed.
You have a lot of semi-valid points such as too much emphasis on botlane or skin prices but they're covered up by buzzword phrases such as anti-fun and what parts of a bad argument you chose to defend. Last but not least there's this little bit right here.
I don't think I was at all trying to utilise "buzzword phrases" in my reply, I was simply stating facts. There's a reason why League is losing so many players right now and let me tell you it's not just because they're bored of the game. Players who quit nowadays usually don't want to quit because League is quite precious to them since that's what they spent years playing. But these players quit due to the fact that the game they once knew is almost completely gone.
In regards to URF I can agree that people complained, but let's be real, there was more praise towards it than negativity (despite what the OP tried to say).
Not sure you even know what most of those mean. Moving on.
Ah I see, we have an intellectual in our midst. I do indeed know what those words mean. There's a reason why I scored 96% on my extension english paper back in college. I'm not stupid, albeit I will say that I can be stubborn in my views sometimes.
Although since you've now tried to insult my intelligence it's only fair I send an insult back your way, you're arrogant. Please just learn that people who a lot more intelligent than you give them credit for.
What points? He started spouting shit without providing actual evidence, and then discounting people because they don't see the game the same way he does.
He called a game mode evil for fuck's sake.
And he is allowed to do that on these boards. Critisise him all you want, but he still has the right to post w/e he wants on this platform.
That's great but if you come across as belligerent and throwing buzzwords or pointing out bad evidence, you're not gonna be taken seriously by anyone except the people who side with him, who are mostly swayed by confirmation bias.
I mean....this post has 9 upvotes atm. While I do agree his post is flawed in many ways I also believe one is open to express their opinions in w/e way they like on here, provided it follows the terms of service.
With all that said I personally think we're wasting our time with this post. By all means critisise him as much as you like, just try to avoid being hostile towards him.
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/ ARAM only accounts), and instead of solving these issues, adding even more issues to the game (aka marksmen being completely broken and allowed to be like this). You can check my match history, I barely ever play anymore, only browsing the forums, and yes I'm thinking about quitting the game too.
