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I don't see any reason to play Elise

Burnt Light··3 votes·624 views

I just recently got Elise and I've been giving her a go. There's been some good games and bad games, but overall, I find her presence to be lackluster and overall a burden to have in a team.

The way her kit is designed is just weird overall. She is suppose to be a mage, but she lacks burst in comparison to other mages (Ex. Syndra, Brand, Viktor, etc) for her to have an attack speed buff is plain strange when she has to get up close and personal (unlike Azir) and with her lack of burst she can't pull off an assassin.

Some have advice to build her tanky, but why would I build her tanky when there are better AP tanks out there (Ex. Cho'Gath, Nautilus, Malphite, Amumu, etc)

And if I did decide to adjust her build a bit to an assassin, like I said before, her kit lacks the worth of a burst without exploding by other champions. Plus if I wanted an AP assassin, there are way better ones out there (Ex. Ekko, Fizz, Katarina, etc)

I don't see her being essential in jungle. I have not tried mid or top, but from what I heard, she is beat in those departments too.

I just don't see any reason to play Elise when there are champions out there that beat her in everything, and honestly it is disappointing due to how cool she is.

Not saying to make her into a champion that 1 shots ADCs, but what exactly is good about her anymore?

9 Comments

Dominick Destine3 votes

She has a tremendous early game.... mediocre mid game... atrocious late game.

She's like Lee Sin, except much worse.

Burnt Light2 votes

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She has a tremendous early game.... mediocre mid game... atrocious late game.

She's like Lee Sin, except much worse.

Explain how, cause I fail to see the concept of her being a better choice than Lee Sin.

Keevalroy2 votes

Her utility outshines him in the early game since she has hard CC provided you can land it, and can gank safer since you should be around full health without using a pot by the time your clear is done.

SaltyKracka2 votes

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I suck

K.

AyRe CoNteMpT3 votes

haha, cracked me up a good bit ; )

@topic: elise has very high base damage, good burst and good sustained damage with low cooldowns. she is naturally squishy as a tradeoff and her strength is that, on level 3, she has 7 abilities while other champions only have 3 (mostly, hi lee sin) as a tradeoff, she doesnt have an ultimate which emphasizes her earlygame even more (HI LEE SIN!). there is basically no champion who can threaten her in the jungle on level 3, 4 and 5. she can use this power to force enemy junglers out of their jungle, stop them from farming and bait/force lanes to leave their lane to help their jungler. she is extremely good at both slowing the game down and speeding it up as she pleases. her ganks are formidable and her towerdives unparalleled.

her power is, as i said, from level 3 to 5 and after that it slowly starts dropping. she still always is useful if played right as she has strong CC and damage even lategame. if you learn how to use her early power, you can control a game easily.

season 6 has left her power in the dust a little bit as some other champions (lee sin, kindred, rexai) got buffed big time indirectly but elise is still a big contestant for earlygame dominance.

Beldair1 votes

I've seen some amazing plays from the pros using her. You just have to find a build that works with how you play her and just keep practicing.

Each champ is strong in their own rights, it's the players themselves that determine how strong that champ really is by how they build and play them.

TeCoolMage1 votes

She's a bruiser, mage, tank and assassin at the same time, she can't beat any pure bruiser like Lee or any assassin like Fizz.

The point of Elise is to be in the backline as human form as a mage and get them to mid-ish HP, then going tanky-bruiser frontline with spider form to let everyone get the enemy team low, then using Rappel and her jump thing as an assassin to finish off.

And her early game is really powerful.

Keevalroy1 votes

I build her full tank and have fun.

Elise item 1409 item 3111 item 3190 item 3110 item 3143 item 3102 item 3364

K541 votes

You need more knowledge of hit kit, I recommend the wiki. Been awhile since I used her (used her once in ranked awhile back after getting her ARAM) and I don't legitimately feel like looking up her moves right now.

But she is extremely bursty. One of her moves does % current health damage in human form, then the other does % total health damage in spider form. Combine this huge burst with her stun/root (whatever her web is) and assassination is guaranteed from a full combo starting human then switching to spider.

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