"Oh vayne killed me in 0.59 seconds"

Succubús GF··51 votes·2,403 views

Nice. But you know, assassins need their combos slower! For um.,, balance reasons :D Yep sounds right

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ModWulf Helhammer23 votes

“Oh someone fed the high damage carry? I wonder why I’m dying. Better go complain about how ADCs are OP on the boards and get all the upvotes!”

Succubús GF8 votes

"Oh someone missed the whole point of the post, better comment something irrelevant for free upvotes!" [sg-lulu]

PePsiLemoNN9 votes

You're the one shitposting for upvotes but ok.

Succubús GF1 votes

Actually my claim was that adcs are entirely too strong and assassins got gutted down for "counterplay" But okay dude.

Troll for Trump2 votes

Fed ADCs scale, but fed assassins don't. Fed ADCs can shred tanks/turrets/objectives easily, but fed assassins can't. Fed ADC also usually means fed support.

Yes, fed assassins have their own merits too, but they pale in comparison to the benefits of a fed ADC. The fed assassin is supposed to snowball the team, and most often the ADC. The entire point of being fed as an assassin is based around ADCs (either your team or the enemy team). Think about that.

The Minion hunt5 votes

assassins excel at single target burst, adcs excel at constant high damage to everything but lack mobility and survivability. If you think an assassin should be able to kill a enemy team, you clearly don't understand the role an assassin is suppose to fill.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Assassins do single target burst, but ADCs can do pretty much everything. At least, in comparison to their lategame utility, a fed ADC is much more useful than a fed assassin, in most cases.

ADCs and Assassins I would say are on the same level of survivability when fed, varying in certain cases based on certain champs. Mobilitywise, assassins are definitely better (to help with single target burst).

I don't think a fed assassin should kill the entire enemy team. But a fed ADC can. That's why a fed ADC is just better than a fed assassin, and that's why the fed assassin's goal should be to get the ADC (and the rest of the team fed). In the long run, what counts is that the ADC gets fed, not the assassin.

The Minion hunt1 votes

Yeah its harder to survive a fed assassin as an adc, and the real thing here is, assassin shut down adc, that's his role not to carry, to shutdown the carry. Most people say adc cant be killed with peel, they can be get a tank on then follow as the assassin, team work op. assassins should not be able to kill targets that are assisted without being assisted.

Z3Sleeper5 votes

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Fed ADCs scale, but fed assassins don't.

LOOOOOL

Succubús GF1 votes

LB and kat both fall off like bricks late game

Troll for Trump1 votes

They.. don't. Kinda a fact.

Elkington VI1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K0LAfsoY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-21T01:30:42.990+0000)

“Oh someone fed the high damage carry? I wonder why I’m dying. Better go complain about how ADCs are OP on the boards and get all the upvotes!”

Honestly, you don't even need to feed her right now. Everyone is a lot squishier now, while damage is higher. If you're melee, she can just straight up zone you in the first three levels.

Charlie Loves U12 votes

the queen of complaining about adcs is back. and this time she hates vayne!

Karn Bishop2 votes

While i wont harp on vayne specifically, the patch soon to hit not touching on reducing damage OR increasing armor in general is unacceptable to me, it results in feeling like your made of paper so you should at least be all for defensive armor buffs across the board if nothing else.

And in a world where everyone feels like paper ADC will be a primary abuser of that and will always feel more unfair to die against especially if they also abuse lethality (pretty much all of the super high winrate ADC are atm)

So while the op might have a hate boner against ADC its like paranoia about being watched by the fbi sure you might BE paranoid and crazy but it doesn't mean your necessarily wrong either, just ask ernest hemingway oh wait you can't.

Succubús GF2 votes

Glad you know [sg-ahri-2]

the queen

Daddy Ants10 votes

Vayne's Q hasn't been able to crit for 4 patches now.

Not even a 6 item hyperfed Vayne can kill someone with just Q + AA.

Succubús GF1 votes

Yep, totally just made it up, sureeeeeeeee [sg-ahri-3]

AirKingNeo9 votes

When does an ADC kill a target in 0.59 seconds?

Succubús GF13 votes

I can post the replay if you want. She tumbled and autoed once after that

Z3Sleeper13 votes

Sounds like she was fed. I kill someone in 0.00 seconds as a fed Wukong. Same for Hecarim, Kha Zix, etc.

Hell I can do the same as an unfed Diana.

AVA Foxling1 votes

as a diana main I can stand by that. Diana is scary, fed or not. But I know if a fed Diana lands that q it will be my death

RavenMagus1 votes

It's understandable though. Wukong and Diana are "divers", which means they get to have assassin burst without the delays.

Wukong doesn't even need to be fed. Once he has a duskblade, he can one shot most squishies easily.

AlienPrimate1 votes

item 3047 would like to have a chat with you.

abca982 votes

Please do.

Succubús GF1 votes

I didn't realize there would be a patch with zoe today so go ahead and look at my 15/9 Kat game, she legit got me in a brush at about 85% hp and I died in two hits. Our builds were roughly the same as end game

AirKingNeo1 votes

Should always be in the original post.

Succubús GF1 votes

Well I don't exactly know how to download and post the replay of one part :/

hhaavviikk1 votes

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When does an ADC kill a target in 0.59 seconds?

the days of vayne tumbling for 1800 damage killing you in a nano second

CNV Nightstar1 votes

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When does an ADC kill a target in 0.59 seconds?

only possible with a full stack on vayne rfc and a q and R and crit and last w stack or just extremely fed.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Can't proc 3rd W AND be in 0.59 seconds.

just OK jungler5 votes

Nothing linked, for all we know you could have been a 400 hp sona vs a 5 item vayne with crit...

Mizaya3 votes

LOL do you know how fed a vayne has to be to kill someone in 2 shots? If any assassin were fed to that point you'd be gone before you could react, aka any AD assassin with duskblade, or... this.

https://i.imgur.com/ddNuUcx.gifv

Succubús GF1 votes

\People keep posting Diana one shots when Diana is a diver lol. Also prettyyyyyy sure that Diana was really ahead

Thefrostyviking8 votes

Because they are looking to make a point.

Fed damage carry will do oneshots on ....a lot of others.

No one on these boards will give a damn about a argument calling overfed Y champion OP.

Because its silly to call for champion nerfs when you support your argument on said champions capabilities when fed, if we did that they all the champs would be nerfed to oblivion.

Lunar Lunacy2 votes

Here is one reason why I couldn't care less about a fed vayne

[(https://www.twitch.tv/videos/203052269)]

Succubús GF4 votes

Was this a bad joke... Diana is 4-5 levels ahead of almost all of them? Id fucking hope she could do that

DuskDaUmbreon10 votes

Hmm. JUST like Vayne would have to be to 2-shot you!

Succubús GF1 votes

The vayne was the same level as me...

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Then she had a metric asston more gold. As in 2+ items up on you.

Subject 53 votes

{quoted}

Here is one reason why I couldn't care less about a fed vayne

[(https://www.twitch.tv/videos/203052269)]

Because the assassin was like 3-4 levels up on the enemy team, with a full build? Post the game statistics and patch note.

Not sure why you need to rely on the assassin being 3-4 items up on the ADC to actually not worry about a fed Vayne. Sounds strange. Very strange. Almost as if . . . this same argument could be used for the fed Soraka support that can also 1 shot the enemy Vayne if she built full AP / no boots / only penetration against a lvl 13 Vayne while being maxmimum level with Ornn upgraded items.

But you know, that's a theory. A GAME THEORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

ZeroAgainst3 votes

{quoted}

Here is one reason why I couldn't care less about a fed vayne

[(https://www.twitch.tv/videos/203052269)]

gratz u killed a lv 13 jhin when you where lv 18 a fed vayne woulda condemned you. and taken your hp in less then a second

Wolvahulk2 votes

"Stop trying to fight fed adc" yeah cuz when I get surprise one shot from vayne ult or draven ult im trying to fight them. Then others complain about fed assasins...

Succubús GF6 votes

":Sorry I gotta predict her ult tumble" My bad I'm b5

WolfChases2 votes

Prople will always assume you are so bad that you don't know even the basics of this game so yea, they probably think you are dueling a fed Vayne.

Most of theese guys have a code in their heads. I had a coded Thresh who died and blamed me for taking blue...guess what, there was no blue on the map. Guy literally had a code to blame the jungler for taking blue"

JackMcSnipeyz2 votes

Video? screen shot? Anything to prove it was a fair 1v1 and you got bursted so fast? No Keep shit posting

The Minion hunt1 votes

stop trying to duel the fed adc, that probably has peel, and get your team to help you. CC + damage + 3 other people will kill vayne. It wont kill this guyAlistar but he will be in your way.

Succubús GF6 votes

The thing is,, I was a level ahead of her as an assassin..

WolfChases4 votes

Seems legit. Riot nerfed assassins so they cant do what ADCs can do. As simple as that.

LordGeovanni1 votes

they still do what adcs are supposed to be picked for though. dps to objectives

Thefrostyviking2 votes

if you are referring to the kata game you lost a little while back....

Levels don't really matter as much as gold except at a few select ones, and Vayne was equal or over you the entire time.

That's already a small disaster as a assassin who needs to snowball to victory, if they are equal to you then the snowball doesn't exist.

And then there is the fact that kata get's screwed so hard by CC and mobility.

Think about it, CC messes her ulti up and mobile opponents can avoid her dagger tosses, what does a kat have left after that? Hardly anything, which is ideal for Vayne.

So, a bad matchup, practically equal gold but you had a exp lead.

Not enough to beat a Vayne, who happens to be one of the stronger 1v1 champs in the game.

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