"Oh vayne killed me in 0.59 seconds"
Nice. But you know, assassins need their combos slower! For um.,, balance reasons :D Yep sounds right
Nice. But you know, assassins need their combos slower! For um.,, balance reasons :D Yep sounds right
“Oh someone fed the high damage carry? I wonder why I’m dying. Better go complain about how ADCs are OP on the boards and get all the upvotes!”
"Oh someone missed the whole point of the post, better comment something irrelevant for free upvotes!" [sg-lulu]
You're the one shitposting for upvotes but ok.
Actually my claim was that adcs are entirely too strong and assassins got gutted down for "counterplay" But okay dude.
Fed ADCs scale, but fed assassins don't. Fed ADCs can shred tanks/turrets/objectives easily, but fed assassins can't. Fed ADC also usually means fed support.
Yes, fed assassins have their own merits too, but they pale in comparison to the benefits of a fed ADC. The fed assassin is supposed to snowball the team, and most often the ADC. The entire point of being fed as an assassin is based around ADCs (either your team or the enemy team). Think about that.
assassins excel at single target burst, adcs excel at constant high damage to everything but lack mobility and survivability. If you think an assassin should be able to kill a enemy team, you clearly don't understand the role an assassin is suppose to fill.
Assassins do single target burst, but ADCs can do pretty much everything. At least, in comparison to their lategame utility, a fed ADC is much more useful than a fed assassin, in most cases.
ADCs and Assassins I would say are on the same level of survivability when fed, varying in certain cases based on certain champs. Mobilitywise, assassins are definitely better (to help with single target burst).
I don't think a fed assassin should kill the entire enemy team. But a fed ADC can. That's why a fed ADC is just better than a fed assassin, and that's why the fed assassin's goal should be to get the ADC (and the rest of the team fed). In the long run, what counts is that the ADC gets fed, not the assassin.
Yeah its harder to survive a fed assassin as an adc, and the real thing here is, assassin shut down adc, that's his role not to carry, to shutdown the carry. Most people say adc cant be killed with peel, they can be get a tank on then follow as the assassin, team work op. assassins should not be able to kill targets that are assisted without being assisted.
LB and kat both fall off like bricks late game
They.. don't. Kinda a fact.
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“Oh someone fed the high damage carry? I wonder why I’m dying. Better go complain about how ADCs are OP on the boards and get all the upvotes!”
Honestly, you don't even need to feed her right now. Everyone is a lot squishier now, while damage is higher. If you're melee, she can just straight up zone you in the first three levels.
the queen of complaining about adcs is back. and this time she hates vayne!
While i wont harp on vayne specifically, the patch soon to hit not touching on reducing damage OR increasing armor in general is unacceptable to me, it results in feeling like your made of paper so you should at least be all for defensive armor buffs across the board if nothing else.
And in a world where everyone feels like paper ADC will be a primary abuser of that and will always feel more unfair to die against especially if they also abuse lethality (pretty much all of the super high winrate ADC are atm)
So while the op might have a hate boner against ADC its like paranoia about being watched by the fbi sure you might BE paranoid and crazy but it doesn't mean your necessarily wrong either, just ask ernest hemingway oh wait you can't.
Glad you know [sg-ahri-2]
the queen
Vayne's Q hasn't been able to crit for 4 patches now.
Not even a 6 item hyperfed Vayne can kill someone with just Q + AA.
Yep, totally just made it up, sureeeeeeeee [sg-ahri-3]
When does an ADC kill a target in 0.59 seconds?
I can post the replay if you want. She tumbled and autoed once after that
Sounds like she was fed. I kill someone in 0.00 seconds as a fed Wukong. Same for Hecarim, Kha Zix, etc.
Hell I can do the same as an unfed Diana.
as a diana main I can stand by that. Diana is scary, fed or not. But I know if a fed Diana lands that q it will be my death
It's understandable though. Wukong and Diana are "divers", which means they get to have assassin burst without the delays.
Wukong doesn't even need to be fed. Once he has a duskblade, he can one shot most squishies easily.
would like to have a chat with you.
Please do.
I didn't realize there would be a patch with zoe today so go ahead and look at my 15/9 Kat game, she legit got me in a brush at about 85% hp and I died in two hits. Our builds were roughly the same as end game
Should always be in the original post.
Well I don't exactly know how to download and post the replay of one part :/
When does an ADC kill a target in 0.59 seconds?
the days of vayne tumbling for 1800 damage killing you in a nano second
When does an ADC kill a target in 0.59 seconds?
only possible with a full stack on vayne rfc and a q and R and crit and last w stack or just extremely fed.
Can't proc 3rd W AND be in 0.59 seconds.
Nothing linked, for all we know you could have been a 400 hp sona vs a 5 item vayne with crit...
LOL do you know how fed a vayne has to be to kill someone in 2 shots? If any assassin were fed to that point you'd be gone before you could react, aka any AD assassin with duskblade, or... this.
\People keep posting Diana one shots when Diana is a diver lol. Also prettyyyyyy sure that Diana was really ahead
Because they are looking to make a point.
Fed damage carry will do oneshots on ....a lot of others.
No one on these boards will give a damn about a argument calling overfed Y champion OP.
Because its silly to call for champion nerfs when you support your argument on said champions capabilities when fed, if we did that they all the champs would be nerfed to oblivion.
Here is one reason why I couldn't care less about a fed vayne
Was this a bad joke... Diana is 4-5 levels ahead of almost all of them? Id fucking hope she could do that
Hmm. JUST like Vayne would have to be to 2-shot you!
The vayne was the same level as me...
Then she had a metric asston more gold. As in 2+ items up on you.
Here is one reason why I couldn't care less about a fed vayne
Because the assassin was like 3-4 levels up on the enemy team, with a full build? Post the game statistics and patch note.
Not sure why you need to rely on the assassin being 3-4 items up on the ADC to actually not worry about a fed Vayne. Sounds strange. Very strange. Almost as if . . . this same argument could be used for the fed Soraka support that can also 1 shot the enemy Vayne if she built full AP / no boots / only penetration against a lvl 13 Vayne while being maxmimum level with Ornn upgraded items.
But you know, that's a theory. A GAME THEORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Here is one reason why I couldn't care less about a fed vayne
gratz u killed a lv 13 jhin when you where lv 18 a fed vayne woulda condemned you. and taken your hp in less then a second
"Stop trying to fight fed adc" yeah cuz when I get surprise one shot from vayne ult or draven ult im trying to fight them. Then others complain about fed assasins...
":Sorry I gotta predict her ult tumble" My bad I'm b5
Prople will always assume you are so bad that you don't know even the basics of this game so yea, they probably think you are dueling a fed Vayne.
Most of theese guys have a code in their heads. I had a coded Thresh who died and blamed me for taking blue...guess what, there was no blue on the map. Guy literally had a code to blame the jungler for taking blue"
Video? screen shot? Anything to prove it was a fair 1v1 and you got bursted so fast? No Keep shit posting
stop trying to duel the fed adc, that probably has peel, and get your team to help you. CC + damage + 3 other people will kill vayne. It wont kill this guy
but he will be in your way.
The thing is,, I was a level ahead of her as an assassin..
Seems legit. Riot nerfed assassins so they cant do what ADCs can do. As simple as that.
they still do what adcs are supposed to be picked for though. dps to objectives
if you are referring to the kata game you lost a little while back....
Levels don't really matter as much as gold except at a few select ones, and Vayne was equal or over you the entire time.
That's already a small disaster as a assassin who needs to snowball to victory, if they are equal to you then the snowball doesn't exist.
And then there is the fact that kata get's screwed so hard by CC and mobility.
Think about it, CC messes her ulti up and mobile opponents can avoid her dagger tosses, what does a kat have left after that? Hardly anything, which is ideal for Vayne.
So, a bad matchup, practically equal gold but you had a exp lead.
Not enough to beat a Vayne, who happens to be one of the stronger 1v1 champs in the game.