so the LB revert... unpopular opinion

SwiftKitten88··2 votes·803 views

now before you say "oh you lost a game to leblanc" you can check my post history i have had this opinion for a VERY long time. well before she was even reverted,and even right when the rework was first done, it has absolutely nothing to do with my losing to LB, that was only the catalyst as to why i am making this thread now, not why i have the opinion

i have long felt that lebanc rework was the ONLY successful rework of the ENTIRE assassin update. as it was the ONLY rework that DID what the assassin rework set out to do... and that was "give the champion counterplay"

which guess what... she no longer has ti since she was reverted

now before you go "well in lane you can do "X" to not get her fed"

NO I CANT!! Becuase the simple fact is IM NOT THE PERSON FACING HER. MY MID LANER IS

once she is fed there isn't ANYTHING i can do at all.

there is absolutely jack shit i can do to stop her.. shut her down.. or anything

this is what i had to face last game.

this is the same reason why i HATE what the did to Katarina in her rework... you flat out CANNOT her her with skillshots, becuase she flat out has zero cooldown on shunpo. and again dont give me crap about "throwing it toward her daggers." not only can she choose not to teleport to them even if by nesscity she NEEDS to teleport to them becuase she would otherwise die, she can teleport to ANY side of them easily dodging all but the widest skillshots

this is also why Janna is such a pain to deal with.. shielding healing? idc, i really dont... but if i cant hit her with a skillshot becuase she fucking runs faster than the damn projectile moves... then we have an issue

during her rework even a FED lb had counterplay.. you could DODGE the skillshot. and even when i throw out a root or somthing that hits her mid flight while she is coming at me it donest stop her from killing me.

every single rework you did in the assasin update was a COMPLETE failure.. and have none of the assassins any more counterplay than they had before. EXCEPT Leblanc .

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ankoanko191 votes

Ah yes, the reworked LB, the ''I hit my E so you ded lol'' or ''I missed my E so I'm completly useless''. The rework didnt do anything it promised, all it did was make LB more of a nightmare to balance than what she is currently. An assassin is supposed to kill the squishy fast , what this rework did was make LB into a burst mage with fantastic waveclear and mobility. There was a reason she literally had a fucking 98% banrate and Riot having to gut her W dmg by 70%(and that was after like 4 different direct nerfs that were huge aswell)!!! And yet, she still somehow managed to become meta again with the gunblade build that made them have to nerf her.. again. If Lb never was reverted, you'd bet that someone would find some op strategy on her again and Riot having to nerf her again. The reverted one is more annoying to play against but easier for Riot to balance out.

Also the rework made Katarina fantastic, no more smashing your head on the keyboard, the counterplay is to not step on the dagger, it's that simple. Talons W isnt nearly as much aids before and he doesnt burst nearly as hard either. The reworks which I find to be a failure are Lb, rengar and Shaco. Akali & Fizz are a bit neutral.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Ah yes, the reworked LB, the ''I hit my E so you ded lol'' or ''I missed my E so I'm completly useless''.

... and thats an issue why? you do realize your talking to a Nidalee main right. i deal with that 100% of the time i play nid, and i dont get a "get out of jail free" card when i pounce in like Leblanc did.

having to land a skillshot in order to do something is counterplay.

The rework didnt do anything it promised, all it did was make LB more of a nightmare to balance than what she is currently. An assassin is supposed to kill the squishy fast , what this rework did was make LB into a burst mage with fantastic waveclear and mobility. There was a reason she literally had a fucking 98% banrate and Riot having to gut her W dmg by 70%(and that was after like 4 different direct nerfs that were huge aswell)!!! And yet, she still somehow managed to become meta again with the gunblade build that made them have to nerf her.. again. If Lb never was reverted, you'd bet that someone would find some op strategy on her again and Riot having to nerf her again. The reverted one is more annoying to play against but easier for Riot to balance out.

Also the rework made Katarina fantastic, no more smashing your head on the keyboard, the counterplay is to not step on the dagger, it's that simple. Talons W isnt nearly as much aids before and he doesnt burst nearly as hard either. The reworks which I find to be a failure are Lb, rengar and Shaco. Akali & Fizz are a bit neutral.

not even going to comment on how stupid "dont step on a dagger" is.

she throw a dagger.. it lands behind you.. you either need to path trhough the dagger. your walk toward the kat or the other enemies running at you.. running sideways wont help as she is running at you as well

ankoanko191 votes

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... and thats an issue why? you do realize your talking to a Nidalee main right. i deal with that 100% of the time i play nid, and i dont get a "get out of jail free" card when i pounce in like Leblanc did.

having to land a skillshot in order to do something is counterplay.

The rework didnt do anything it promised, all it did was make LB more of a nightmare to balance than what she is currently. An assassin is supposed to kill the squishy fast , what this rework did was make LB into a burst mage with fantastic waveclear and mobility. There was a reason she literally had a fucking 98% banrate and Riot having to gut her W dmg by 70%(and that was after like 4 different direct nerfs that were huge aswell)!!! And yet, she still somehow managed to become meta again with the gunblade build that made them have to nerf her.. again. If Lb never was reverted, you'd bet that someone would find some op strategy on her again and Riot having to nerf her again. The reverted one is more annoying to play against but easier for Riot to balance out.

not even going to comment on how stupid "dont step on a dagger" is.

she throw a dagger.. it lands behind you.. you either need to path trhough the dagger. your walk toward the kat or the other enemies running at you.. running sideways wont help as she is running at you as well

Nidalee has team utility and her role is different from Leblanc. Pounce actually does have a get out of jail freecard since its cooldown gets reset and is a low cooldown all the time. Leblancs W rank one is 14s and at max rank is 10s. Keep in mind however, that this W is leblancs biggest dmg factor. It is what makes her riskier than Nidalee since Nidalee can throw her Q out of 4 billion range for a snipe. The old LB didnt do this, the old Lb hit you with her gunblade +E and you died if you didnt flash out. The old LB had a ''get out of free jailcard'' since she could use her R+W at her own will.

It should be easy as fuck for a nidalee to path the dagger, or is the 47% winrate telling me otherwise?

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