Sounds a little stupid to me, specially since ahri right now is only overtuned because of glacial augment build being too good (which every mid will abuse in worlds), so you should nerf that instead.
We are nerifng ahri before the 60%+ ban rate 54% wr kassadin, we are nerfing ahri BEFORE NERFING PYKE
And of course nerf those OP champs that have been broken for months and months already.
Kelg14 votesagreed, nerf them all
gut Kaisa
Poop Jelly3 votesAgreed, especially the Kaisa part
Lets have shrex9 votes"Glacial augment build" feels a lot like this time when midlaners used to build 
for the Twins shadows active (and the gold generation but kek)
I don't understand why it's being done only now
Noor Sakata2 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JzvcWATy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-03T11:55:44.101+0000)
"Glacial augment build" feels a lot like this time when midlaners used to build
Because mobility is a thing right now
2Charmnot2Charm2 votesEspecially movespeed, try landing skillshots on this guy without strong slows 
.
Even smaller bursts of movespeed like 
is annoying af to deal with.
BLIGHTBRINGER8 votesI find it funny how majority of the Pro-Play games consist of just 
in the bot lane.
You might not agree with me but no amount of number changes will make Kai'Sa a well balanced champion.
She just has too much of everything.
As for Lucian, I will skip him because I have no reasonable thoughts about the champion.
ankoanko191 votesI remember saying that Kai'sa feels like a champ that cant be entirely balanced because of how random her kit is, its basically a better old Nunu but the difference being there is ''synergy'' in her passive. Boards downvoted me to hell.
Horse Grenades6 votesShes op. nerf dat bitch
Krully1 voteshe dashes at me and taunts thts bullshit riot nerf
DarukongSr6 votesWhile I agree most of those champs are OP, I have two objections to your whining:
Rock MD6 votesWhile I agree most of those champs are OP, I have two objections to your whining:
- ahri has had her day fsr linger than most and is definitely over tuned, quit whining she'll hopefully be balanced after this.
- urgot is a sexy, beautiful champ and deserves his time in the limelight. It's nice to see a fresh face and different kit rather than the usual op turds you normally see, and he does actually have a reasonable level of counterplay. At least he's not a blue blood like ahri who has enjoyed a winrate greater than or equal to 50% for most of her long existence, aka better than 95%of champs.
Ahri's "had her day" build was electrocute in low elo. They don't think that's too powerful and it will be feeling the nerfs the least of any build or playstyle. lmao
Ahri's Glacial Augment build has only been regularly used for 2-3 patches, tops, and the problem is while it nerfs her it does nothing to address how bullshit Glacial Augment feels to play against.
Besides, Ahri is good because she's one of the easiest champions to get carried on, not hard carry, while Graves is good because he 1v12's games regularly. Shit's ridiculous.
SSW Talon3 votesAhri's problem is that the E buff was too much and they should bring it down to 1.2 secs at level 1 scaling up to 2 seconds at level 5 to meet the middle ground.
Ahri is overtuned, but the nerf on PBE isn't hitting the right thing, that is the problem. But at least it's not likely to have a big impact on her as I don't really mind Ahri metas much anyway.
Rock MD1 votes[{quoted}](name=SSW Talon,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JzvcWATy,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T17:13:00.418+0000)
Ahri's problem is that the E buff was too much and they should bring it down to 1.2 secs at level 1 scaling up to 2 seconds at level 5 to meet the middle ground.
Ahri is overtuned, but the nerf on PBE isn't hitting the right thing, that is the problem. But at least it's not likely to have a big impact on her as I don't really mind Ahri metas much anyway.
How is it not hitting the right thing?
If she does a lot but you space it out so she only does a lot in a short window then she has a chance of being a good champion outside of solo queue.
If she does a little but she can do it repeatedly then she's just a solo queue champion because everyone in high elo and their mother knows how to play around her and she's reliant on snowballing but how do you snowball if everyone knows how to play around you?
SSW Talon4 votesBecause 0.4 seconds added to a cc at level 1 is overkill, especially the higher up you go as good players make such good use of cc that her winrate went up by 4% when the buff happened. Her cc ability is the one that is notably powerful right now, I don't think nerfing other parts of her kit is going to remedy that issue.
She still is a soloq champ because she still realistically does a little but repeatedly, playing around her is just avoiding her E which in proplay will usually happen unless her E is set up by someone else, hence why she has seen barely any proplay this year. Nerfing her R isn't going to make her any more popular in proplay next year.
The R nerf will make her easier to kill in lane post-6 though so I can respect and appreciate that. I'll also simply take any nerf at this point, just like I would have when Talon was still crowding picks out in mid (for soloq exclusively, of course.)
demoted to iron1 votes[{quoted}](name=SSW Talon,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JzvcWATy,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T18:03:27.604+0000)
Because 0.4 seconds added to a cc at level 1 is overkill, especially the higher up you go as good players make such good use of cc that her winrate went up by 4% when the buff happened. Her cc ability is the one that is notably powerful right now, I don't think nerfing other parts of her kit is going to remedy that issue.
exactly why Ahri feels so bullshit to play against atm. Unless you buy a qss, if you get hit by her charm you're dead with no counterplay. Just sit there and watch as she oneshots you while you can't move at all.
DarukongSr2 votes[{quoted}](name=Rock MD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JzvcWATy,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-10-03T13:35:04.484+0000)
Ahri's "had her day" build was electrocute in low elo. They don't think that's too powerful and it will be feeling the nerfs the least of any build or playstyle. lmao
Ahri's Glacial Augment build has only been regularly used for 2-3 patches, tops, and the problem is while it nerfs her it does nothing to address how bullshit Glacial Augment feels to play against.
Besides, Ahri is good because she's one of the easiest champions to get carried on, not hard carry, while Graves is good because he 1v12's games regularly. Shit's ridiculous.
Again, ahri has been strong long before glacial augment, and we'll before this season. She has been consistently one of the higher winrate mid champs throughout the history of league. Long before the current rune system. She will be fine if she gets knocked down to 49-51% winrate. That's where most champs should be, so seriously stop complaining lmao. Yes graves and some of those other champs are busted, I never said they weren't. But that doesn't mean ahri doesn't deserve this nerf.
LeMemeBoy4 votesshe's been one of the higher pick/winrate mids for YEARS now.
Step Sis Lux6 votesmonths* she was trash like half year ago
LeMemeBoy5 votes[{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JzvcWATy,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-10-03T13:48:43.624+0000)
months* she was trash like half year ago
she has NEVER been a trash pick stop lying.
Step Sis Lux4 votesyes she was
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesAhri as well as janna and other waifu champs re always trash when they are below 55% winrte.
Rexxiee4 votesshe's been one of the higher pick/winrate mids for YEARS now.
Years? Before the charm buff she had like 5% pick rate with a 50% wr for quite a long time.
LeMemeBoy1 votesYears? Before the charm buff she had like 5% pick rate with a 50% wr.
Like? how about you show me some facts instead of just guessing to make your point look better. I saw her once every 2-3 games for YEARS. especially after she got the movespeed added to her q. ahri mains lie through their fucking teeth man and they apparently are the most represented mains on this board. because anything complaining about ahri is instantly downvoted, and ahri mains come flocking to lie about just how good she really is
Ahri Inari1 votesThat's not a guess. Number are fact. Us Ahri main will look at her number 3 times a week.
SithesisLord6 votesWith a 7% banrate.
Compared to Akali's 67%, Camille's 26%, Draven's 20%, Evelynn's 40%, Graves' 37%, Irelia's 52%, Jax's 26%, Kai'Sa's 24%, Kassadin's 37%, LeBlanc's 27%, Pyke's 31% and Urgot's 18%, taking into consideration the other stats like pick and win rates of all these champions, Ahri is still one of the most balanced and undeserving of nerfs of the recent patches.
Despite being picked a lot and winning a lot, she's not banned a lot, because people don´t think she's all that ban worthy with all the other actually broken bullshit champions in the game right now.
SSW Talon4 votesA set of champs needing nerfing (Graves, Kaisa etc) doesn't exclude another champ needing a nerf (Ahri).
I think they all need nerfing and hope that the rest mentioned here get hit next patch, too.
Ahri Inari1 votesAnd some other need complete redesign. For example overloaded kit such as Kaisa, Ryze, Azir (Ether op or nerfed to the ground) and unhealthy gameplay such as 100-0 point & click in 0.1s like Talon, Rengar.
I wish Riot would just balance his game rather than add extra content and mess with the meta 5 time a year.
SSW Talon1 votesTalon's fine, he has some counterplay in terms of his kit, the rest I agree on.
kaisa, ryze and azir are just too good
Damage is so high in general currently that Rengar can actually 1 shot adcs with a single auto. Talon was okay until damage became so high because he'd usually have to do a perfect Flower combo to kill very quickly. He doesn't need to now damage is so high between elec, sudden impact, everyone losing armour in runes, duskblade, etc. I hope the rune changes next year make it so he can't do what he's doing right now, despite myself being a beneficiary of it, I would still like Talon to need to full combo properly to kill like he needed to last year.
However, he does need to be reasonably fed to one shot with no counterplay, I noticed you have Ahri in your name, you can actually E him out of his Q and deny the damage + passive stack, I don't know if you knew this and I have no idea if it's intended or a bug (as Ahri E isn't meant to interrupt dashes) but I can confirm it works.
Death by Glamour2 votesTbf shes been in pretty good spot for a while now even before the glavial augment build became popular. Was she op, not really but you cant deny tyat she was in a strong spot
Ratpie2 votesAhri is tough because she is one of those champs that is far too easy to do well with when people don't even know what they are doing, has a kit that is very forgiving when you make mistakes, but then in the hands of a really good player can be completely oppressive.
She is like the highest pick rate champ but still has a solid win rate, because she is completely viable at all levels.
She probably does need tweaking, but just enough to tone her down, not destroy her.
haaaaaaalp2 votesNow is not a good time to be complaining about why is riot nerfing x before y. Instead, we should be focusing on okay good riot has nerfed x, y, and z, and should also nerf a, b, and c on the same patch.
Chembaron Yamada2 votesWhat's with this glacial augment build everyone talks about? I always read people saying that they will abuse it in worlds, but I watched quite alot of games from the championship until now and literally not a single mid laner in these games took glacial augment.
Ranmaru2 votesCan we please stop shit posting about riot not nerfing this? Nerfing that is just going to make THAT Stronger. Thank god we are nerfing ahri and nami they have both been crowding out picks.
Vêrtigo2 votesHello LoL Boards! An Ahri main here, with a 3-year experience, 1million and 400k points and a diamond 5 player here to share his thoughts on Ahri.
t realize is that she even got a mana buff, which didnt do anything at all. Yes, from then on you can throw 2 charms except 1 till 6th level and Lost Chapter, but the mana wasnt problem really after Lost Chapter.Just 40% made her S tier from B, and her banrate was higher a lot, too.Make her highs higher and lows lower-Ahri mains will say Ahri is weak(most of them). No she isnt. She is strong and S tier atm, but nowhere near broken. Is the nerf deserved? Yes? Should there be more? No
To conclude, this nerf is a nice one but there`s more work to be done. I hope i didnt confuse people because im really tired. Good luck on the Rift!
Ionian Vulpix2 votesSo instead of nerfing the broken assassins, they nerf the champion who is safe enough to do well against assassins. Cool.
PopcornBunni1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ionian Vulpix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JzvcWATy,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-10-03T20:02:04.772+0000)
So instead of nerfing the broken assassins, they nerf the champion who is safe enough to do well against assassins. Cool.
Wait until a riot Assassin main gets bodied by towerdiving into 
's passive
FCJAAAAGOOOO2 votesI'm ALWAYS fine with them nerfing Ahri first. In ANY given scenario.
And they would never make any sweeping changes like that before preseason anyway.
boricCentaur11 votesthey said jhin will get nerfs and I think they did this since dumb people kept complaining that she was op when she is not.
Bisaknosp1 votesdw glacial augment is getting nerfed afterwards xd
but tbh her wr was high before this build became popular though besides winrate there really isnt anything broken or op about ahri its just that thanks to her ult she can actually survive to most of the cancer that is popular like rengar kha zix eve kassadin jax and so on
Noor Sakata1 votesJust revert her E buffs already .. non of Ahri mains liked it , instead they nerf her only thing that makes her viable in the match and the circle jerking won't stop , people will still hate her
Vêrtigo2 votesIts completely untrue that Ahri mains did not like the buff. We had stereotypes about it because we wanted damage, but it`s far better than just adding raw damage into her kit. We like the buff and it shows that its much better than what it could be.
Noor Sakata1 votesIts completely untrue that Ahri mains did not like the buff. We had stereotypes about it because we wanted damage, but it`s far better than just adding raw damage into her kit. We like the buff and it shows that its much better than what it could be.
Myself , and many others in Discord and Reddit , and not completely we didn't like it , it was just not needed , and if we have to choose the ult nerf that won't solve anything and people will complain about her or her e revert , we mostly will choose the E revert
Shablagoo1 votesDoes the order matter? This is pretty much you saying, let ahri be op a little long and nerf these guys instead. Riot is going for the top tier, ahri is by far one of them so it doesnt matter which one comes first.