Why are tank comps so abusable?

Succubús GF··2 votes·645 views

Having Alistar Garen bot lane Poppy top Skarner jg and Chogath mid. Of course they crushed us. Maybe if i was vayne id be able to do something but i doubt it. I was playing sivir (shes garbage right now but thats not even the point ) they stomped so damn hard, Theres hardly any counterplay to that comp. So my question is why is that so abusable for free wins?

21 Comments

EndlessSorcerer8 votes

Alistar and Cho'gath built AP.

Garen built Trinity Force into what looks like Infinity Edge.

Skarner built Warrior into Trinity Force.

Poppy built Sunfire Cape and Black Cleaver.

Quite frankly, your main issue on Sivir was that you rushed Lord Dominik's Regards when the opposing team had a grand total of one, single armor item.

Build properly against your opponents and you will have a significantly easier time.

Slythion3 votes

I wonder if he honestly didn't know any better or if he though he was slick to pull a "tanks suck" qq thread and didn't expect someone to double check his story

I'm honestly at a 50-50 here

Ralanr2 votes

To be honest most people don't. A lot of tank haters are as thick as the stereotypical tank main.

Though I've also stopped looking through match history unless there's a factor that really interested me. The moment I saw ADC Garen I knew it was garbage.

Slythion1 votes

A lot of tank haters are as thick as the stereotypical tank main

does "tanks" include my mains Darius and Amumu?

[zombie-nunu-tears]

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Amumu, yes.

Darius, no.

Marshbouy6 votes

You just got seriously outplayed. Any good team would build pure tank shredder and win easily.

Penns1 votes

Implying you can do that on every champ and actually do something.

Marshbouy4 votes

Implying that you can't build items to improve DPS and build armor shred items.

Penns1 votes

Not on assassins for example and even if you do, your kit just wont allow you to actually kill those "tanks".

LordGeovanni1 votes

or you can build it on assassins but not expect to one shot burst tanks because they are tanks not that its ever stopped assassins before

Ralanr6 votes

You lost to Garen bot. What?

redniwediS1 votes

Garen makes a wonderful support for high burst carries.

Ralanr3 votes

Ah yes. The infamous Alistar ADC.

VoidStaresBack2 votes

Part of the problem here was your teamcomp: you as Sivir was the only one with any meaningful amount of ranged poke, and three of your teammates were pretty much locked into melee fights against a team who loves to brawl it out in melee. You had two dash-based champions into Poppy and your entire team was squishy allowing AP Cho and Crit Garen to wipe the floor with your face. You also rushed LDR against a team that built almost entirely squishy, actively removing yourself from relevance. A quick press of tab would have showed you that they were building full squish and you should go about your normal build.

Your team also fucked up pretty badly. There is no reason why Yasuo should have lost lane to Cho'Gath, a champion with highly telegraphed attacks and horrendous mana issues. Yasuo has a strong early game and should have abused that mercilessly to kick poor Cho around and stall out his ROA powerspike. Somehow your Janna/Sivir botlane, which is basically kiting incarnate, lost to an Alistar/Garen lane, a lane that has zero poke and shouldn't, by all rights, have had any kill pressure on you with a Janna watching your back.

tl;dr: they won primarily because of a series of mistakes on ya'lls part and a somewhat favorable overall team composition, not because "tank" comps are "freelo"

ChaddyFantome1 votes

because no one wants to play tanks and they are necesary to making a proper front line.

They are abusable because the enemy is unlikely to have any.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

No range, no poke. Any decent adc and support could crush that botlane, and they would have no mid/lategame at all, unless you go full aram garbage mode and pick fights under their tower instead of defending.

Why are elows so bad at falling back and defending a tower?

Succubús GF1 votes

Right because being dived pre 6 is fun. Are you stupid? They had GHOST. That was their gap closer

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

somehow I really think you should have won this as sivir. I don't believe you did this right

Succubús GF1 votes

How would i win?

grug1 votes

defensive itemisation is very very very cheap

Critmaster Garen1 votes

wood 5 adventures.

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