Tahm was already toxic champion to most top laner champions and now he toxic to ever champion

ValiantKiller·Jun 5, 2019·20 votes·7,672 views

That frog was cancer to 75% of top laners champions and now after the changes he just have a high winrate against all top laners champions from the weakest to strongest.

Even the champions that doesn't need to interact with him like , , and still hardly have any winrate against him, So i wonder how long he will be like that without true nerf and i thought he was supposed to be "Support"

One day that balance team will touch champion with change and doesn't make them op, hopefully.

And on side note : I really started to hate top lane where it either play op broken champion or let your team carry your weak champion, legit this season either abuse champions and b e meta slaves or deal with meta slaves and lose land hard or even game unless your team is super good to carry your useless top laner champion.

38 Comments

Mal the RedJun 5, 201910 votes

And this Top Lane cancer is bleeding into the Mid lane too.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20199 votes

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And this Top Lane cancer is bleeding into the Mid lane too.

Balance team at it finest, right?

ZapFreeManJun 5, 20191 votes

Thank god. Maybe then it finally has a chance to be nerfed

Meep ManJun 5, 20198 votes

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ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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CatFish!

Soul DealerJun 5, 20195 votes

It’s almost like riot just throws random shit at the wall to see what happens. They are talking about nerfing Irelia AGAIN. This time it’s her base mr. I don’t even play Irelia and I feel bad for her mains. The problem is HEALING, sustain is just took goo right now. Tahm has sustain, Irelia has sustain, aatrox has sustain, urgot has sustain, every fucking champion has some kind of sustain. This would be a problem if there was a counter to it but there isn’t. Play a tank and build thorn main against and aatrox, he will still heal through everything. If sustain is needed then things will be better

SuperTopLFBottomJun 5, 20193 votes

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It’s almost like riot just throws random shit at the wall to see what happens. They are talking about nerfing Irelia AGAIN. This time it’s her base mr. I don’t even play Irelia and I feel bad for her mains. The problem is HEALING, sustain is just took goo right now. Tahm has sustain, Irelia has sustain, aatrox has sustain, urgot has sustain, every fucking champion has some kind of sustain. This would be a problem if there was a counter to it but there isn’t. Play a tank and build thorn main against and aatrox, he will still heal through everything. If sustain is needed then things will be better

Wait what. Why would anyone nerf irelias MR!?

Irelia needs her passive nerfed considerably for the early game she legit rightclicks pretty much every toplaner to death except jax. What the actual fuck.

Ah yeah riot doesn't give a fuck about toplane they just want her gone from midlane so mage players stop complaining and toplaners can go eat a dick.

I Spread CancerJun 5, 20193 votes

As a Vayne main I disagree. He is not toxic to us.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20193 votes

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As a Vayne main I disagree. He is not toxic to us.

Numbers say he destroy vayne

4th3t0sJun 5, 20192 votes

He's really more of a catfish tbh; amphibians don't have whiskers.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20196 votes

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He's really more of a catfish tbh; amphibians don't have whiskers.

Whatever that thing is, it cancer to play against.

i piss in jugsJun 5, 20191 votes

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Whatever that thing is, it cancer to play against.

He's a sexy fashion major with a hearty appetite and a robust constitution.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20192 votes

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He's a sexy fashion major with a hearty appetite and a robust constitution.

lol

Zeppelins circusJun 5, 20191 votes

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He's a sexy fashion major with a hearty appetite and a robust constitution.

They made a very fun character lore wise with very interesting interactions. But since his release something was very wrong about his gameplay.

i piss in jugsJun 5, 20192 votes

I only made him my main because of the hat. The rest I didn't care about.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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I only made him my main because of the hat. The rest I didn't care about.

I believe you

RevaliJun 5, 20192 votes

Main issue with tahm is he's effective against melee, but has huge weaknesses toward kiting, the two you mentioned should always win vs. tahm

another thing is tahm like all tanks have some form of mitigation, in this case it's his E. so taking a gigantic trade is a bad idea unless its a straight all in, which you'll likely lose.

The key to beating him is chipping at his health, and denying him lvl 1-2 where he won't have a point in E for sustain.

KelgJun 5, 20192 votes

54% wr top in NA plat+, balanced champ btw

Daddy ReTaricJun 5, 20192 votes

As a Quinn main, Tahm is a easy match up. [sg-miss-fortune]

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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As a Quinn main, Tahm is a easy match up. [sg-miss-fortune]

Again numbers say otherwise, you just luck to play against bad ones

i piss in jugsJun 5, 20191 votes

I see nothing splendiferous in this table's offerings.

2Charmnot2CharmJun 5, 20191 votes

Thankfully I decided to main Ashe on my smurf while helping a friend get into plat so that catfish gets kited into oblivion whenever he gets picked. Still, whoever thought buffing TOP KENCH was a good idea should get forced to play vs it for 50 games straight as the top laner.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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Thankfully I decided to main Ashe on my smurf while helping a friend get into plat so that catfish gets kited into oblivion whenever he gets picked. Still, whoever thought buffing TOP KENCH was a good idea should get forced to play vs it for 50 games straight as the top laner.

Still you is the adc, imagine being top laner main who legit for over 10 patch got to deal with meta slave abusers in lane either as hercaim or vayne or riven or aatrox or renekton or tahm now and then there mordkersiar on the horizon. Legit this season top lane is toxic breeding ground for champions. Glad i stopped ranking

2Charmnot2CharmJun 5, 20191 votes

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Still you is the adc, imagine being top laner main who legit for over 10 patch got to deal with meta slave abusers in lane either as hercaim or vayne or riven or aatrox or renekton or tahm now and then there mordkersiar on the horizon. Legit this season top lane is toxic breeding ground for champions.

You forgot Neeko top, and I do play top lane since Poppy is one of my main champs. I just don't play top as much as I do Mid/ADC/Support for reasons like that since I don't play meta top laners.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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You forgot Neeko top, and I do play top lane since Poppy is one of my main champs. I just don't play top as much as I do Mid/ADC/Support for reasons like that since I don't play meta top laners.

What make me sad there 7 people legit downvote thinking it fine for champions like tahm to be left like that

WastedHookerJun 5, 20191 votes

He's beyond broken top lane and needs a nerf. Shield runes benefit him so hard. Insta-ban or pick in my opinion. Tanking tower 20 tower shots at 20 minutes in a row while doing damage of a mid laner?

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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He's beyond broken top lane and needs a nerf. Shield runes benefit him so hard. Insta-ban or pick in my opinion. Tanking tower 20 tower shots at 20 minutes in a row while doing damage of a mid laner?

And best part there people downvote thinking that cancer is fine

U R Good At GameJun 5, 20191 votes

He does the same bullshit darius does. Hits you with one ability so you either die or lose half your hp. Both of those champions can eat one.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20192 votes

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He does the same bullshit darius does. Hits you with one ability so you either die or lose half your hp. Both of those champions can eat one.

No sir atleast Daruis can be played around and he isn't that amazing in every matchup.

U R Good At GameJun 5, 20192 votes

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No sir atleast Daruis can be played around and he isn't that amazing in every matchup.

According to u.gg and league of graphs they both have a roughly equal amount of winning, losing and even match-ups. The only reason tahm has a higher win rate and is percieved to be harder to lane against is because tahm counters more common champions than darius does. This means you are more likely to be countered picked vs a tahm than vs a darius.

HOWEVER, performance is irrelevant to my point. I talked about their kit not their matchups. Their kit is, if you land one of your abilities you are doing half their hp. That's why darius has always been a new player friendly champion because Iron-Gold players are more likely to get pulled by E which gives even new darius the oppourtunity to either force them to back or just take ghost and kill them.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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According to u.gg and league of graphs they both have a roughly equal amount of winning, losing and even match-ups. The only reason tahm has a higher win rate and is percieved to be harder to lane against is because tahm counters more common champions than darius does. This means you are more likely to be countered picked vs a tahm than vs a darius.

HOWEVER, performance is irrelevant to my point. I talked about their kit not their matchups. Their kit is, if you land one of your abilities you are doing half their hp. That's why darius has always been a new player friendly champion because Iron-Gold players are more likely to get pulled by E which gives even new darius the oppourtunity to either force them to back or just take ghost and kill them.

I ageee in that but unlike tahm , he need to abuse ghost or ignite to run you down and unlike tahm he isn't tanky monster. And in long term illaoi, yorick, et can bully daruis but ohh god tahm nothing even vayne can stop against him

ŠρìΚσJun 5, 20191 votes

well let me tell you something ; i lost a 1V1 as nasus vs him while stacking 450 and while i'm lvl 14 and he is 12 and you know what is good ? he was support and what better ? he lived with 1000H P what means i had 0 chance actually XD ( not even clse ) and when i play nasus toplane and its vs a tahm kench i 99% of time rage quit the game ; because if i dont i will probably get an intentional feeding repport since he can dive me whenever he want and since that playing vs that champ make me super frustrated to a point where i will probably flame and int so in prefear a leaver then a chat rest or account suspension , ( this is how fun it is to play vs tahm kench , a champ who auto win every mele match up )

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20192 votes

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well let me tell you something ; i lost a 1V1 as nasus vs him while stacking 450 and while i'm lvl 14 and he is 12 and you know what is good ? he was support and what better ? he lived with 1000H P what means i had 0 chance actually XD ( not even clse ) and when i play nasus toplane and its vs a tahm kench i 99% of time rage quit the game ; because if i dont i will probably get an intentional feeding repport since he can dive me whenever he want and since that playing vs that champ make me super frustrated to a point where i will probably flame and int so in prefear a leaver then a chat rest or account suspension , ( this is how fun it is to play vs tahm kench , a champ who auto win every mele match up )

I mean i do play urgot so unless im 2 items and level 11 i will be killed over and over

ŠρìΚσJun 5, 20191 votes

the only time i played vs a tahm kench in lane and i did not fed ; i was actually palying veigar perma slow build XD ( and was afk farm and only use my cc to escape )

ValiantKillerJun 6, 20191 votes

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the only time i played vs a tahm kench in lane and i did not fed ; i was actually palying veigar perma slow build XD ( and was afk farm and only use my cc to escape )

Rip

MorgManBasherJun 5, 20191 votes

What's his playrate like? Still garbage/low? More than likely.

Going by winrate without adding in playrate is worthless. He was a bad top laner before changes and yet still had a good winrate despite this thanks to a low pickrate.

ValiantKillerJun 5, 20191 votes

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What's his playrate like? Still garbage/low? More than likely.

Going by winrate without adding in playrate is worthless. He was a bad top laner before changes and yet still had a good winrate despite this thanks to a low pickrate.

The same as Garen and Kennen 4 times the amount of Maokai and MonkeyKing That now low, that is decent.