You nerfed Urgot to 48%winratte yet Hercaim and Riven sitting at 55% winrate without nerfs

ValiantKiller·Apr 4, 2019·7 votes·3,297 views

Can someone please explain that bs for me ? Please?

got nerfed once he reached over 51% and he wasn't even that top tier even, Yet and having 55% + winrate with being top tier for patchs and nothing happen to them.

So what is the hell is that ? Right biased balance team.\

Infact outperform for 2 patchs yet you decide to nerf him only and not them while getting little pat with nerf on her mana cost only not her core passive.

35 Comments

Craft ZeppelinApr 5, 20196 votes

Riot: NA players are trash, their opinion doesn't matter compared to...*rolls dice

The Vietnam server.

SithesisLordApr 4, 20193 votes

getting little pat with nerf

Zoe's 0.25s Q nerf was a little pat. The Kayle nerfs were very significant.

ValiantKillerApr 4, 20191 votes

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Zoe's 0.25s Q nerf was a little pat. The Kayle nerfs were very significant.

Look at Urgot nerfs, they legit kneecap his E and passive by damage.

RagnaveilApr 4, 20192 votes

Which was the issue everyone complained about. His damage.

ValiantKillerApr 4, 20192 votes

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Which was the issue everyone complained about. His damage.

And right what is the problem with Riven and Vayne and such ?

Right much mobility and alot of damage, did anything from that got nerfed ? nah

RagnaveilApr 4, 20192 votes

Both Vayne and Riven are champions who haven't been balanced around the current rune system period. Especially Riven. CDR isn't a weakness for her anymore. Am I saying they don't deserve to be nerfed? No.

ValiantKillerApr 4, 20192 votes

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Both Vayne and Riven are champions who haven't been balanced around the current rune system period. Especially Riven. CDR isn't a weakness for her anymore. Am I saying they don't deserve to be nerfed? No.

I know you talking about, runes is the reason of this hell

RagnaveilApr 4, 20192 votes

No, the lack of keeping eyes on the low ground is what caused this. By not expecting Riven to be some magically overpowered goddess by having easier access to cdr, idk what else you wouldn't expect.

ValiantKillerApr 5, 20191 votes

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No, the lack of keeping eyes on the low ground is what caused this. By not expecting Riven to be some magically overpowered goddess by having easier access to cdr, idk what else you wouldn't expect.

I mean they thought throwing some buffs and nerfs to base status of champions going to help.

RagnaveilApr 5, 20191 votes

I still to this day don't understand why they wouldn't adjust ratios, heck, even this past preseason they should have. There are still a good chunk of champions that are problematic because of the extra stats. And then there's the opposite: Champions who suffer due to a lack of stats they originally had in the old system (tanks).

ValiantKillerApr 5, 20191 votes

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I still to this day don't understand why they wouldn't adjust ratios, heck, even this past preseason they should have. There are still a good chunk of champions that are problematic because of the extra stats. And then there's the opposite: Champions who suffer due to a lack of stats they originally had in the old system (tanks).

Cause true damage, attack speed and damage is too much. Honestly precision tree is the most broken among all in long run

JungleChopperApr 4, 20191 votes

what website shows hec at 55%?

ValiantKillerApr 4, 20193 votes

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what website shows hec at 55%?

Op.gg He is the top of top laners with 55%winrate

RagnaveilApr 4, 20191 votes

But thats mainly data for Korea. https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/home/ is honestly a better source.

420 gramsApr 4, 20191 votes

Fioras been at like 46% win rate all season. No buffs. Not even 1 damage on her w.

Aatrox AirlinesApr 4, 20193 votes

noone wants fiora buffs, that champion is toxic

RagnaveilApr 5, 20191 votes

Very. A good fiora will take one kill and turn that into your ass being dead over and over. They just need to remove the minigame passive and give her a better dueling passive that doesn't require such a caustically annoying minigame. Her R can give her the vitals still, but she doesn't need it for her passive.

420 gramsApr 5, 20191 votes

I don't see how. She's a squishy melee who often needs to get behind the enemy to do damage and doesn't really do much until 10k gold in

Whereas Riven can just dash 4 times on to you, cc you twice, and the whole time stand in one spot hitting you for big damage.

Vayne is a ranged champion with stealth, a dash, and hard cc, with massive damage after about 6k gold.

The thigh guyApr 5, 20192 votes

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Fioras been at like 46% win rate all season. No buffs. Not even 1 damage on her w.

That happens when tanks are absolute dog shit.

ValiantKillerApr 5, 20191 votes

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That happens when tanks are absolute dog shit.

So true, she got no place against bruiser like Jax, Riven, etc

The thigh guyApr 5, 20191 votes

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So true, she got no place against bruiser like Jax, Riven, etc

It’s not that she doesn’t have a place against them, it’s that she’s going to be less effective against anything that isn’t a tank, and that’s how it should be. Which is the problem with the current state of %pen, but that’s not what this post is about. Lol

420 gramsApr 5, 20191 votes

Vaynes still good even when tanks are bad

The thigh guyApr 5, 20191 votes

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Vaynes still good even when tanks are bad

No. Vayne is good because Rageblade is a stupid af item.

Sergeant HbA1cApr 5, 20191 votes

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No. Vayne is good because Rageblade is a stupid af item.

Ehhhh, the buffs to her Q are the big issue. Rageblade compounds it.

Aatrox AirlinesApr 4, 20191 votes

HECARIM SKIN INC

Freeza with an IApr 4, 20191 votes

I hope Hec gets a nerf, I hate playing Jungle and my mid laner gets one shot by a 1300 horse with an undodgeable attack

ValiantKillerApr 4, 20192 votes

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I hope Hec gets a nerf, I hate playing Jungle and my mid laner gets one shot by a 1300 horse with an undodgeable attack

Hope so too along Riven.

RenownedWheat42Apr 5, 20191 votes

U.gg shows Hecarim top (the thing you're complaining about) sitting at 51% this patch and 52% last patch in plat+. When you look at all ranks, he's still sitting firmly at 51%.

Riven is sitting at 52% in plat+ and 50% in all ranks.

[zombie-brand-clap]

SeilleasApr 5, 20191 votes

Except for Hecarim I'm fine with the others, they are not as hard to deal with.

RagnaveilApr 5, 20191 votes

Hec's fairly simple to beat compared to Riven, kid you not.

BeatzBoyFTWApr 5, 20191 votes

Hecarim & Riven weren't picked in pro-play, so Riot deems them to be balanced.

RagnaveilApr 5, 20192 votes

Both have been picked, and Hec's starting to become a prominant toplaner. I honestly don't find him busted because even with these changes, he's fairly weak to being cheesed out of lane (not to mention most people who play hec to the highest level are jungle hec players). The key to beating hec is the same key that has landed Sylas in a world of pain and misery: Grievous Wounds.

Anime FizzApr 5, 20191 votes

Urgot is still broken tho.

ValiantKillerApr 5, 20191 votes

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Urgot is still broken tho.

Broken how? Explain please