voli "leaks" already sound atrocious

Moody P··4 votes·1,226 views

"Volibear (early development): Now a Juggernaut. His Ultimate coats him in lightning, making him unstoppable and stunning nearby enemies."

Hoping this is another fake leak. Such a creatively bankrupt idea - "melee Kennen" give me a break.

Can we not get another generic mishmash of "juggernaut" traits like the last 3 juggernauts Yorick Urgot Aatrox and actually get a good, interesting design?

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Stars Shaper3 votes

It doesn't sound so unbelievable afterall.

Moody P2 votes

It's believable if only because Riot hasn't made anything creative in ages

"just give him lots of hard CC lol" has already been their MO on 80% of their reworks

Stars Shaper4 votes

Rather than that, it feels fitting with Voli thematics and as a decisive kit tool if his engage keeps being like the current Voli (a not-so-slow speed up).

Not praising it, it just feels like something Riot would do with good intentions.

Moody P1 votes

juggernauts aren't supposed to have hard engage so why would he have it now?

Not praising it, it just feels like something Riot would do with good intentions.

feels like riot wants big plays and not anything that would justify volibear being picked unless he's just better. same as urgot, same as aatrox. great.

Saevum1 votes

If with ages you mean since Jhin's realease, its sad but true. Non toxic kit, fun and different type of adc.

RandomIsHere3 votes

Can we not get another generic mishmash of "juggernaut" traits like the last 3 juggernauts and actually get a good, interesting design?

Complains but no ideas to share ? And what would be an "interesting design" for you ?

Also people said "aatrox is just riven 2.0". He's in no way like riven. Slow animations, slow overall... So why voli would be like kennen ?

Moody P1 votes

clones, pets, a fighter-like who has utility that isn't "le epic aoe stun." how about healing? how about buffing allies? how about debuffs? how about playing up his anti-mobility power since he's the only juggernaut who focuses on that? how about spells that aren't generically good in every situation so that Volibear isn't another rehash of the same exact thing that the entire juggernaut cast is already able to do?

this leak doesn't tell me "i want to pick volibear." it says "Volibear isn't good unless he's better."

nothing that would actually make a new volibear interesting for me is something riot would do because riot excludes numerous design principles for completely arbitrary reasons

RandomIsHere3 votes

I see. Clones & pets are good on paper. But riot never managed to do a good job with them. Kindred's wolf really teased me until we got gameplay videos. Shaco's clone & LB's clone (pre revert) are not really a "gameplay extension". Only a movable character without special skills, only AAs.

Neeko's clone is a bit better, but shows how frustrating it is to play against.

Regarding volibear, he's not a "now juggernaut" Taking a look at last riot post, he was already considered as one. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/taking-another-look-subclasses Even on the universe page he's a fighter (superclass of juggernaut) https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/champion/volibear/

So they're looking changes that go well with the champion. The lore says

"The thunderous demigod known as the Thousand-Pierced Bear is the battle-spirit of the Freljord."

Then i wouldn't understand a "supporting kit" on hit. Considering the anti-mobility : Reworks and new champs try to remove point&click CC. Making them a skillshot that can be dodged, adding a cast time so people could react. Actual Q E dont let much counterplay...

Leak isn't enough to judge already. We'll need to see some gameplay of his new kit.

boricCentaur11 votes

I hope this change is not real I hate when riot just puts so much time into a champion that is just going to be reworked look how much time they put into aartox a year before and in the same year that time could of gone to other champions like just do small buffs since it just going to be a waste of time.

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