The Real Reason Yasuo and Riven are the most hated champs

Lover of both champs, firmly believes they both demand alot of skill and are in the top ten list for hardest champs to master. But I given it some deep thought, and had a conversation with someone. And how about I just copy paste it.

Riven isn't a skirmisher she's riven riven is legit her own class her and yasuo kinda do something very unique that no other champs in this game does and it's a core reason why the player base hates them what they do, is they essential aren't moba characters yasuo and riven literally exist in the wrong game they are ARPG characters They have no cooldowns, no real resource cost Video game history time essentially what a moba is is a PVP version of a ARPG (like diablo or POE) what is an arpg? an arpg is a fast, and PVE based game, where the game play is focused on destroying mobs and hoards of monsters and like a MOBA it shares the QWER mechanic However some people love PVP game play but to balance the fast paced life style of a ARPG and convert it into a PVP is impossible that's what urf is and urf is a impossible to balance mess So the way you turn a ARPG into a PVP is you put harsh cool downs on your characters tone down the damage and essentially make everything move slower however Yasuo and Riven break that rule they are still fast and very fluid just like a normal ARPG character with near no cooldowns and that's why everyone hates specifically those two characters they quite literally SHOULD NOT exist on league and it's also why they take the most time to learn out of any other champs in this game You aren't playing league of legends you're playing an ARPG