Remake mechanic is atrocious

Dominick Destine··1 votes·734 views

Rather than punish 9 players, punish the afker.

I've had so many matches where we were absolutely dominating early and then the game is remade. It just happened and it's one of the worst things in the game.

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Mysticman893 votes

Absolutely dominating within 3 minutes is somewhat of a stretch, and besides that, it's not really indicative of the relative skill levels of those involved when it's 5v4.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Absolutely dominating within 3 minutes is somewhat of a stretch

Gank top. First blood. He tps back in. Re-gank, he is near death.

Moving to mid (Enemy team surrendered) Bullshit.

Mysticman891 votes

Yeah, 1 kill in one lane with 1 follow up gank isn't quite dominating, as theres 2 other lanes and a jg who could be potentially winning in terms of cs or outtrading. Or at least, there would be if it wasn't 5v4. In the event the enemy jg was the DC, it could well have been the case that every single member of their team would be outplaying your team (e.g. if the enemy jg happened to be there to counter gank).

The rules for /remake are designed to avoid abuse cases so people can't /remake in response to early game going poorly, and so if their ultra-early game went poorly you don't know if it was because you were outplaying them, or because they knew a /remake was coming so playing sloppy, or because they were simply outnumbered.

Only the AFK is actually punished with LP/MMR losses (and possible leaverbuster), so it's just a short time nuisance for the other 9 players.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Yeah, 1 kill in one lane with 1 follow up gank isn't quite dominating

Clearly you don't play top or jungle.

At this point I would mention my rank in comparison to yours, but the moderators dislike when I point these things out. I will just say that 'some people' consider such a situation highly advantageous. Others are unable to understand why.

Mysticman891 votes

Oh absolutely it's very advantageous, but the game on the whole is not dominated within 3 minutes.

Hell, every non-DC'd member of the enemy team could spend the first 3 minutes running down mid, and I probably wouldn't call it 'dominating'. I'm inclined to reserve that term for when actual repeated outplay is taking place, not for beating on people while they're handicapped.

Rank isn't always indicative of knowledge. I would also suggest that the difference between two hypothetical individuals, one ranked diamond 5 with high plat mmr and one ranked plat 3 with high plat mmr is negligible even if it did matter.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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not for beating on people while they're handicapped.

Getting ganked and then re-ganked is not getting beaten while handicapped, it is dominating someone.

Mysticman891 votes

If you think 4v5's aren't a handicap, we're clearly playing different games.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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If you think 4v5's aren't a handicap, we're clearly playing different games.

You fail to understand the speed at which the ganks occur, the enemy jungler would never have reacted quickly enough.

EtyrnaI2 votes

'Absolutely Dominating' in the first 3 minutes..? Cmon guy

Final Spark Lux1 votes

Don't forget it was also vs 4 not 5 people, so theres bound to be 0 pressure on the map. I lol'd

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