Look at this clip of Wukong's monstrous dmg!!!11!

option paralysis·Dec 14, 2018·9 votes·3,291 views

"Wukong players report him feeling good right now"

"Wukong is on a strong side" - Meddler 2018.

His Q literally deals +10 dmg lvl 1 with 0% ad ratio, AND that's after they nerfed his E and runes too. I don't even want him to get buffed dmg wise, I just want riot to acknowledge they're straight up lying when talking about Wukong and give him a proper rework/passive after not touching him for 4 fuckin' years. Jax/Irelia/Camille are all broken as fuck for the whole season with insane dmg while also being tanky, meanwhile wukong can only build full ad and one shot or die. And in the jungle you get fucked by any dmg jungler and invaded all the time, and now they're also nerfing tiamat lol yeah wukong can say goodbye to any lane except mid lane in some specific cases.

27 Comments

SwiftKitten88Dec 14, 20186 votes

so sow we are showing videos of a champion using a lvl 1 ability and not killing someone after they misplayed?

oh noes Malphite missed his ulti.. he needs buffs.

MonkeyKing donest even go below 51% winrate in any elo.

im not saying "winrate" is "all inclusive" on a champion health.

but 1 we cant his his build 2. he misplayed,as we see him use a item 3077 active WELL after the target left range when he clearly could have got the kill if he used it when he should have.

the only thing u can really complain about is how the Nidalee who clearly had mana didnt throw a spear in front of were Tryndamere was headed which would either have hit him or forced him to double back and keep in range of MonkeyKing ..

nid clearly had mana and was in range to toss it over the wall, and based on the fact that hunted wasnt proced as it last 4 second and we saw 3 seconds of nid in range not throwing a spear which has a 3 second cooldown , it was off cooldown for at least one of those second.

so BOTH champions on MonkeyKing 's team during misplayed. and that allowed Tryndamere to escape.

i really dont see an issue.

option paralysisDec 14, 20181 votes

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i really dont see an issue.

I knew some smart guy will say he misplayed. Obviously he didn't press tiamat because he thought his fucking "empowered Q" does a bit more than 80 fuckin' dmg. And that's the whole point of this post, jesus christ. If you use your brain, if his Q deals no dmg, his other ability is clone that does no dmg, then all wukong is left is his E and AA's. Meaning you buy tabis and everyone out trades you, especially in jax/camille/irelia scenario. and what the fuck does malphite missing his ult mean that wukong Q doesn't deal dmg. malphite ult = tiamat proc ? and wukong has a 48% win rate with 1% pick rate on opgg, meaning even his mains can't have a 50% win rate, not even in silver/gold where he was the strongest btw that guy in the clip is the only wukong player left in high elo and he dropped like 600 LP since the nerfs.

Rathar DashingDec 14, 20182 votes

wah wah I misplayed, my champion is underpowered

mommy why do I have to press buttons to get kills

option paralysisDec 14, 20181 votes

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wah wah I misplayed, my champion is underpowered

mommy why do I have to press buttons to get kills

this is the last answer I'll give you, cuz you can't understand simple things so no point. it's not about not pressing tiamat, it's about wukong dmg being underpowered after 3 straight nerfs to him, his Q literally deals 80 dmg until lvl 10. and riot ignoring him for 5 years. but why bother talking to a player that plays against bots.

Rathar DashingDec 14, 20182 votes

He made a bad play, he could have easily gotten the kill within his kit if he just pressed 1 a half second earlier. I don't even disagree that he needs a buff (a small one). Riot hasn't ignored him for 5 years, his last two changes in fact a buff and a bug fix (smaller ones) that came out in 8.20 and 8.17.

Oh geez wow you checked my match history, truly my only weakness is an ad hominem. But no, that's the last response you'll give me because you're scared I'm right.

Fire BlaustoiseDec 14, 20181 votes

again the silver analyst.

Rathar DashingDec 14, 20184 votes

again with the rank shaming

SwiftKitten88Dec 15, 20182 votes

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again with the rank shaming

which is even more hilarious becuase he is posting from a lvl 12 account which means one of two things... he is indeed lvl 12... or his main account got banned.

Rathar DashingDec 15, 20184 votes

Eh, normally I'm not a fan of level shaming, either, but the irony is pretty priceless.

SwiftKitten88Dec 15, 20183 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JAjagZZK,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2018-12-14T21:10:25.450+0000)

again the silver analyst.

yes a person who has been playing for 6 years.. and how mains nidalee is able to annlize a clip to see that his missed his item 3077 proc and that nidalee, my own main... who i have well over 1000 games on, also could have prevented him from escaping.

it donest take a genius to know that item 3077 proc was WAY late

and i with over 1000 games on her over 6 years.. im pretty sure im "qualified" to talk on wither or not the nidalee could have thrown a spear or not.

i mean it's a pretty basic angle. Tryndamere clearly already blew his dash seeing as it was never used..

that was an easy spear... and it was a easy item 3077 press.

Fire BlaustoiseDec 15, 20181 votes

you are dishonest thats all.

He use his E > aa > Q and can't even end a low trynda. With talon range Q > aa Trynda would be dead here.

yes a person who has been playing for 6 years..

If you play since so long but didnt even improve, i can't trust your game sens. And i wasnt talking about nidalee not moving. i say you are dishonest cause you dare to say

i really dont see an issue.

Cause you dont play the champion, ofc you dont have an issue with this.

it dosnt take a genius to know the late tiamat proc was a rage move. Nobody question that. The issue is the lack of damages from the Q. Thats the only point of this thread.

feintfiendDec 14, 20185 votes

MonkeyKing is absolute cancer when he's good. Basically point and clicks you to death if you dare to enter his range. He needs a rework to be a skillful assassin and not some unga bunga shit.

option paralysisDec 14, 20182 votes

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is absolute cancer when he's good. Basically point and clicks you to death if you dare to enter his range. He needs a rework to be a skillful assassin and not some unga bunga shit.

literally most of wukong mains want a rework or just a mini rework to make him more skillful and ability to deal with irelia/jax/camille's of top lane, he loses 90% of match ups. but riot said china likes wukong so he's not even on the top 20 list of reworks. fucking dumb.

Fire BlaustoiseDec 14, 20182 votes

everything is cancer in your elo.

feintfiendDec 14, 20184 votes

Says the lvl 12 account

Sharpest glassesDec 15, 20181 votes

he's right tho.

Rathar DashingDec 14, 20184 votes

His Q is also an AA reset, has an extra 125 range, and reduces armor by 10%.

RanmaruDec 14, 20183 votes

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His Q is also an AA reset, has an extra 125 range, and reduces armor by 10%.

10% armor shred btw

Fire BlaustoiseDec 14, 20184 votes

And ?? you spend 40 mana point for this shit (Wukong has low mana pool).

UltrysDec 14, 20183 votes

SOOOOOOO wukong has high mana costs especially early. His Q doing 10 damage isn't acceptable no matter what. 10 percent armor shred? At early levels, how much armor shred is that? Almost nothing?

Cost isn't justified here, and neither is it good to have abilities so objectively weak. Wukong is in a world of bruisers, like darius, who get SO much more for free with their kit. Now I haven't played wukong in awhile, but he has no sustain and very little early damage. The only thing he has is a point > click gap closer that is an AS steroid.

You could say he has decent mobility/engage/escape. His only CC is on his ult. His passive provides very poor defensive stats at most times. His damage is quite low.

Someone like Irelia has better CC, better sustain, better mobility, better engage, and way more damage, and lets not forget WAYYYYY more innate tankiness.

Someone like Darius has WAAAAAAAY more sustain, way more free damage, more CC at most points, and WAAAAAYYYYY more damage.

If you start comparing him to other champions he might lane against, it doesn't make much sense. He just lacks so much in his kit. His kit is also very binary, and that doesn't feel fun for anyone.

He literally relies on cheese.

Sharpest glassesDec 15, 20181 votes

When you analyze a kit you need to take in account against what he lane or jungle. So 125 range is nothing against Darius, Aatrox, Urgot.... 10% armor shred is nothing during early and you wont benefit hit cause the basic combo is E > aa > Q then you are out (minions will melt you).

Rathar DashingDec 15, 20181 votes

When you analyze a kit you also need to realize that a rank one ability isn't going to be extremely effective (in most cases). You also forgot the attack speed steroid from E.

Sharpest glassesDec 18, 20181 votes

Analyze the champs stats (mana include) and against what Wukong will lane.

HIs Q is trash. YOu can't be serious saying the spell is all but trash. But again, you should play the champ to understand this (it'll be faster than explain you).

Fire BlaustoiseDec 14, 20183 votes

This champion is trash. Sadly riot and low elo of this board only look at wr.

boricCentaur1Dec 14, 20182 votes

It also does not help that neeko's w is like that definition of power creep when you compare it to wukong's w.

WoodakoodashoodaDec 14, 20182 votes

Wu was once my favorite and most played champion. But Riot clearly hates him anymore. Because even the one tricks have avoided playing him as badly as Riot's crippled him.

DenevielDec 18, 20181 votes

what i'm looking at is the fact that he have 1 point in Q and 4 in E .... end of any argument. That it's the dmg a lvl 1 Q should deal