Complaint about Annie

Trash MammaI··2 votes·342 views

Now, i'm not gonna try and say Annie is OP or anything cause I don't believe she is, my complaint is about her being a "support"

Now, i'm perfectly fine with Annie being able to keep her stun up in mid lane I think it's a good thing she has that zoning potential so she can't be jumped on the second someone sees her use a spell.

I hate an issue with her being able to hold a stun with a point and click large range skill that also works with 2 AoE nuke spells, I don't like adc's but even I know it must be a pain in the ass being zoned out of your cs from an stun you can't dodge.

There's counterplay to that shit mid lane, where people are bursty early on and typically have kits to deal with that kind of thing.

I Know she has people like morgana (who's actually another mage that's annoying to see bot lane) who she's kinda weaker against but the point still remains. A "support" Shouldn't be able to zone you out of all your cs while also being able to 100-0 you with very little ap. That's just now how things need to work.

My proposal for her would be to just give her stun a time limit system. After casting 4 spells Annie charges a stun. If Annie doesn't use a skill within X amount of seconds she loses a charge every X amount of seconds.

To make it less confusing let's put numbers in it. If Annie doesn't use a skill within 10 seconds she starts losing a charge every 5 seconds.

This still gives her a huge amount of zoning time as well as allows her to keep her stun up for a very long time.

Mid lane Annie normally farms with Q and gets a mana refund. So constantly using that to keep charges up before it runs out of time won't be an issue and won't change mid lane annie at all.

"Support" Annie normally doesn't cs so she can't get that refund on mana. This would make her actually have to use spells costing her mana so she can't just sit at 100 mp with a 1+ second stun and then R Q W Ignite the second you come in to cs and leave the scraps for their adc if you didn't somehow make it out which you'd end up using both summoners.

Changes i'm proposing doesn't hurt mid lane annie (if anything mid laners would love this change) and it doesn't really hurt Annie in general. It just tones down her early game zoning ability in bot lane.

PS I also play annie sometimes so no, i'm not butthurt

2 Comments

Lauricella31 votes

targeted stun you say? Taric

Singing Lark1 votes

No. Support Annie cannot 100-0 you, especially pre-6, with little AP. If that were true, Annie would be the most stupidly OP champ in the entire game. As someone who mained Annie support for about 2-3 weeks (not very long, I know), there is plenty of counterplay to Annie support, especially since she’s immobile, probably squishier than when she’s played mid (due to you not having RoA), and has no sustain. Since her AA range nerfs, she can’t be as much of a bully. If you poke with Q, you’ll go OoM fast, plus, without AP, your Q doesn’t do all that much damage to be honest. Her W costs A LOT of mana so there’s no way for her to be spamming that just to keep her stun up. The other issue is that asides from her Q, she has no reliable way of charging up her stun without forcing out 10 second cooldowns. If you added this expiration mechanic, you’ve just completely destroyed Annie support and Annie’s stun will essentially never be up when away from minion waves out of the laning phase. Even then, she has to last hit at least 3 minions.

“Oh my god that’s only 3 minions.” But that’s also 6 seconds where she’s trying to charge up her stun. Congratulations, you just made Annie the most predictable champ in the entire game. Annie’s charging up her stun? Let’s kill her before she can react!

Annie support is picked for her utility because she can hard engage so well. If she’s solo bursting you down 100-0 as a support with little AP, something is wrong and it’s definitely not Annie.

Rush QSS if it really gets down to that, but if you want to talk about oppressive supports, go look at Morg, Braum or a really good Blitzcrank.

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