I loved luden's when it was released. It used to charge up by 20 per spell cast, but now only does 10 per spell. The thing is, the items doesn't scale that well in mid to late game compared to lichbane. But now has a much harder time to proc the passive more than once during a trade.
I was wondering if anyone else felt riot went overboard with how fast it charges. It hardly feels useful unless I want 100 ap and movespeed.
Veraska1 votesit was to push it off of spam oriented poke champions (ziggs, ap kog'maw) and move it to more agile champions like fizz and ekko
The Yetii Rider1 votesIt feels useless unless you want AP and MS - good. Items that give additional base damage to a champion's kit (especially Spellblade items) are almost impossible to balance properly.
If your kit has enough base damage to kill champs, you kill them harder (Veigar, Nidalee)
If your kit DOESN'T have enough base damage to kill people, these items become must buy and the champion is balanced around always having the additional base damage from the item (Ezreal, Sona, Twisted Fate).
DrCyanide1 votesI love it on Xerath. I'm generally not close enough to my enemy to use Lich Bane, I like the movement speed, the bonus damage is nice (usually half health squishy champions with a single Q once I have it) and the proc lets me know for certain if I hit someone in the fog of war.
Sire Hippington1 votesKinda agree, though the 10% ms it gives is really, really powerfull, it makes it insanely hard to catch those mid-longranged poke/kite mages and as a rush item enables powerfull roams. I think it would be better to give lichbane that 10%ms, since one has atleast get close for an auto to use it, decrease Ludens to ~7% and up the charge to atleast 15 per spell.
TallyZrg1 votesA few mobile-poke champions were abusing it's proc. It's in a good spot now I think.
ModKnightsKemplar1 votesWell, it's supposed to feel useless unless you want 100AP and movespeed... sounds like it's working.
It was overpowered on release. Everyone knew that. It doesn't feel OP now. That's a good thing.
Are1 votesThe early game burst and power it gives to poke justifies that nerf.
If anything I think the MS should be nerfed. It should have the same MS as lich bane.
