Great because all we need is to make it even harder for laners to fend off ganks, as if it wasnt already difficult enough. I realize originality and all for new kits but this is fucking stupid. This champion is either going to be garbage or totally broken and no in between with a mechanic like that because there's no way the rest of his kit can even feasibly come close to properly budgeting out that kind of power fairly.
Kai Guy3 votesI do not understand why folks are going on about this so much. Jungles who can ignore terrain with movement related ablitys are already in the game.
So is the issue that he can tunnel farther? Still have at least 3 champs that got long range terrain ignoring ability's. I think that yes wall walking's strong mechanic at the times when its a thick wall but any circumstance you die to it when any other jungler could also kill ya with movment... why care?
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I do not understand why folks are going on about this so much. Jungles who can ignore terrain with movement related ablitys are already in the game.
So is the issue that he can tunnel farther? Still have at least 3 champs that got long range terrain ignoring ability's. I think that yes wall walking's strong mechanic at the times when its a thick wall but any circumstance you die to it when any other jungler could also kill ya with movment... why care?
Because it requires ults or usuage of wards and I can ward choke points so I can see the even more mobile ones coming.
Kai Guy1 votesI suppose we will just have to politely disagree with echoer as I just don't see it as a mechanic that cant be adapted to as its very much comparable to others already in the game, and a very simple fix if it was to strong is to add in a indicator giving folks time to react better if hes using a longer range travel, regular wards will be as effective in standard locations for shorter range usages. I am more curious in his numbers and if one form will be superior to the other then worried about wall walking.
Dreadlocks1 votesI mean.. We have blast cones...
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I mean.. We have blast cones...
I can destroy blast cones. In fact most solo laners do it pretty regularly when they go to drop their first ward of the game and repeat this every time they go to ward
Dreadlocks1 votesYou're telling me, you walk all the way around top lane just to hit a blast cone? U just lost like half a wave of XP doing that lol!!!
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You're telling me, you walk all the way around top lane just to hit a blast cone? U just lost like half a wave of XP doing that lol!!!
You mean when I push them in at level 2? No I didn't
Dreadlocks1 votesRotfl yeah thats an option 100% of the time. I'd love to see you get smacked 1v2 bcuz u run into the jungler.
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Rotfl yeah thats an option 100% of the time. I'd love to see you get smacked 1v2 bcuz u run into the jungler.
Clearing blasting cone early is pretty safe. At worst I run into the jungler doing a buff and we both retreat. Past that point, clearing the cones becomes less safe but warding blind spots/coke points before entering gives you pretty good safety to enter.
Penns1 votesI dont really see people doing it except for champs like Trynda that just spin over and hit it.
Dreadlocks1 votesHe's just coming up with anything to favor his argument.. That's pretty obvious.
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He's just coming up with anything to favor his argument.. That's pretty obvious.
Anything? You mean concrete truths? Lol. I'm sorry your arguments are weak and you conduct your arguments like a child and as a result, you don't like people disagreeing with you.
Dreadlocks1 votesYou're trying to convince people that his E is busted, yet there are so many other champs that literally do the same thing in some form.. Look at Rek'sai's E for example..
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You're trying to convince people that his E is busted, yet there are so many other champs that literally do the same thing in some form.. Look at Rek'sai's E for example..
They don't walk through walls. It's not even remotely the same thing. Yes they are mobile and yes because of this, it does make establishing vision against them difficult. However, it still can be done. You can walk through walls in areas that you wouldn't dare ward because it's too deep in their jungle to go there.
Fuh Queue1 votesWhat difference does it make?
Hecarim can bolt at you from any angle Zac can jump from North Korea. Eve is invisible.
Like, if Kayn is in the position to run through the wall and he wasn't spotted by your ward (or lack of) then any other meta jungler would be able to run an extra few seconds to make the gank.
HateDaddy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Fuh Queue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IXlOoTq0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-27T23:26:13.254+0000)
What difference does it make?
Hecarim can bolt at you from any angle Zac can jump from North Korea. Eve is invisible.
Like, if Kayn is in the position to run through the wall and he wasn't spotted by your ward (or lack of) then any other meta jungler would be able to run an extra few seconds to make the gank.
I can see ward + scuttle crab for all 3. And these 3 are pretty bullshit in their own right.
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Jinzo Torrance1 votesEveryone is going to play him too lol. The champion is a magnet to edgy angsty teen and weaboo trash, he's so cringy too. Disgusting.
ƒat nuts1 votesIt would be better if based on how long the distance is that he travels in the wall how much if a slow he gets once he exits. For example: 1.25 seconds no penalty 1.85+ 25% slow (damage maybe?) reduction for 2.5 seconds