Is Singed gets hotfixed then Thresh, Nunu, Zac, Gragas, Twitch, Ori, Draven all needs hotfixes too

Rexxiee·Jul 13, 2017·9 votes·482 views

(and by hotfixes i mean triple nerfs too, not just -3 ad or some irrelevant nerf)

Like this is just way too unfair, singed has been a garbage tier champ for the last like what? 2~3 years? And you're going to nerf him into oblivion 1 day after hes actually good again? I dont even play singed but holy shit i feel bad about singed players, who have waited for those changes for so long only to get kicked in the nut by riot as always.

And why are those other champs allowed to break games left and right unchecked or given absolutely minor irrelevant nerfs (hello zac) for months over and over?

Lets just remember on how they said "we are not going to nerf lee too hard because hes flashy and a lot of ppl play him", i guess singed just isnt allowed to be in the meta for more than a few days.

14 Comments

LiteUpSketchersJul 13, 20174 votes

I would be COMEPLETELY fine with this if they waited more than ONE FUCKING DAY to do it!! There's no possible way they got all the data for Singed in one single day since all the one tricks were spamming him yesterday.

Mysticman89Jul 13, 20171 votes

Zac and nunu did get hotfixes last patch.

RalanrJul 13, 20171 votes

Is this more about Singed or about the others? Because I've never considered you for a Singed advocate.

RexxieeJul 13, 20172 votes

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Is this more about Singed or about the others? Because I've never considered you for a Singed advocate.

Its about how bad the riot balance team is at their job.

RalanrJul 13, 20171 votes

What exactly are Singed's nerfs again?

Big LincolnJul 13, 20171 votes

base HP is being lowered, W and R cooldowns going up

a nice big ol' triple nerf

RalanrJul 13, 20172 votes

Odd they target HP since he lost a lot of HP with how his passive was changed.

W kinda makes sense because the new grounded effect is pretty strong on its own.

Critmaster GarenJul 13, 20174 votes

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Odd they target HP since he lost a lot of HP with how his passive was changed.

W kinda makes sense because the new grounded effect is pretty strong on its own.

when his passive was changed, they increased his base health growth by a large amount to compensate.

im not a singed main, but i dont really understand why his passive even needed to be replaced tbh. it was actually a really strong passive when he itemized into items like catalyst or other mana items.

around 500 to 700 extra health depending on how much you went into these items is nothing to scoff at. it made item 3025 or item 3110 and similar items pretty damn cost effective on him.

RalanrJul 13, 20171 votes

I think it's because most Singed builds voided utilizing that passive a lot.

Personally I felt that archangels staff works great on it, but could never get it to work.

EschetonJul 13, 20171 votes

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when his passive was changed, they increased his base health growth by a large amount to compensate.

im not a singed main, but i dont really understand why his passive even needed to be replaced tbh. it was actually a really strong passive when he itemized into items like catalyst or other mana items.

around 500 to 700 extra health depending on how much you went into these items is nothing to scoff at. it made or and similar items pretty damn cost effective on him.

It's because in practise building mana is weak. Used to be good. But the meta changed and no Singed main builds mana unless it happens to be on an item like Righteous Glory. He hasn't really had a passive for the past 2-3 years.

Big LincolnJul 13, 20173 votes

because singed doesn't build mana anymore, and the new passive lets him actually do his job in teamfights

there is 0 incentive to build mana for scaling when you can just manage your spells better, buy some other items, and power-spike quicker before you fall off. if singed was still a late game beast like he used to be things might be different

Big LincolnJul 13, 20171 votes

W already got 2 seconds shaved off its duration, which makes the fling root much harder against players with any common sense

LyingOnLineJul 13, 20171 votes

He's getting hotfixed because he's obviously wildly out of whack. Other champions need (and indeed, are getting) nerfs; the hotfix is Riot's way of saying "woah, we totally underestimated just how much we buffed him"