@Meddler: thoughts on Adjusted Nasus so far?

HateDaddy·Jul 27, 2017·12 votes·2,462 views

Was wondering if you guys have any preliminary findings you'd like to discuss

29 Comments

Scary DoorJul 27, 201713 votes

Um, this isn't Reddit. If you want Rioters to respond to you then you can't do so on the game's official website and forums, you must go to a third party site in hopes of getting their attention.

KloqdqJul 27, 20173 votes

Not true. many Rioters reply to posts on the boards.

Scary DoorJul 27, 20173 votes

Seems to be less and less though. That's kinda my point.

KloqdqJul 27, 20172 votes

Fair enough point. It's mostly the bigger posts they will respond too. The only way to know if to get to the front page.

FlameanatorXJul 27, 20175 votes

Upvoted solely for the humor value. [slayer-jinx-wink]

korg023Jul 28, 20172 votes

Well Reddit community is like 100 times larger than Boards. On Reddit we see 6k upvotes sometimes and more and here most ive seen is 150 or 200. Not to talk about comment replies and upvotes. So more people are gonna see their response there and that is the reason to go there and respond more often. Logic 101.

LyingOnLineJul 27, 201713 votes

According to lolalytics, Nasus has spiked to a [le gasp!] 50% winrate! My god, it's the end of the world! Everybody run for your lives! Screw the women and children, it's every man for himself! We'll probably have to nerf Wither!

HateDaddyJul 27, 20178 votes

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[le gasp!] 50% winrate!

##NERF NOW ##E ##R ##F ##N ##O ##WOW OP

FlameanatorXJul 27, 20173 votes

That last line about nerfing wither made me lose my sh**. XD

HateDaddyJul 27, 20172 votes

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That last line about nerfing wither made me lose my sh**. XD

"We find that with these changes, Nasus is performing a bit better than we'd like to see. As a means to bring the god of doge back down to earth some, we've got a slight nerf in mind: wither now has 150 range and increases the enemies attack speed. To compensate for this mild nerf, we are giving Nasus 0.0250 Bonus AD scaling on his ult."

RiotRiot AxesJul 28, 20179 votes

From the data perspective, looks pretty good. Still evaluating to be sure it's a mechanic we're happy with, but so far looking pretty promising.

If we turn out to need to tone it down, we'd likely do something along the lines of - Reduces Q cooldown by 10%/30%/50% by rank, or only reduces Q cooldown at rank 3. Don't think we're going to have to do either, though.

LyingOnLineJul 28, 20172 votes

Good to know, but I'm just gonna take this chance to say 'inb4 HateDaddy takes this as validation of his "if you have to nerf nasus, do him like Darius" topic'.

RaxistaichoJul 28, 20171 votes

How's Shyvana looking after her own buffs?

DunkinNoobsJul 28, 20172 votes

Preliminary data has her winrate up about 2% from 50.5% to 52.5%.

Terror13Aug 15, 20171 votes

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From the data perspective, looks pretty good. Still evaluating to be sure it's a mechanic we're happy with, but so far looking pretty promising.

If we turn out to need to tone it down, we'd likely do something along the lines of - Reduces Q cooldown by 10%/30%/50% by rank, or only reduces Q cooldown at rank 3. Don't think we're going to have to do either, though.

Good, cause nasus is bloody fine.

Swiftstrike4Jul 27, 20174 votes

He seems pretty fine. Still has the same problems of getting kited, but he is a better split-pusher and stronger duelist.

I can also kill a tank without wacking them 15 times.

I think the buff was pretty modest with the "ulting to take early towers" being a relatively strong strategy.

HateDaddyJul 27, 20174 votes

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He seems pretty fine. Still has the same problems of getting kited, but he is a better split-pusher and stronger duelist.

I can also kill a tank without wacking them 15 times.

I think the buff was pretty modest with the "ulting to take early towers" being a relatively strong strategy.

Honestly, it felt amazing last night. I played a game where I didn't do too hot in terms of kill to death ratios but I racked up 15 assists (1/6/15) which used to be hard as fuck to do as Nasus because you typically couldn't front line very well unless you went full tank and that really felt underwhelming. But with the percentage pen and DPS I have with Q on ult, I actually could DPS down a sejuani and thresh. It was pretty nice to do this and I constantly found myself shit talking out loud, mocking their situation saying "what's wrong dumb tank main, you can't stand on top of me and ignore me anymore, awwwwwwwwww!"

LyingOnLineJul 27, 20172 votes

Being able to actually play the game is nice, isn't it?

HateDaddyJul 27, 20174 votes

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Being able to actually play the game is nice, isn't it?

My friend kept laughing but it was funny because he kept saying "that's so busted!!" And I'm just like, what? It's busted because Nasus is actually a champion again?

korg023Jul 28, 20171 votes

Exactly, people were annoyed of fed Nasus before but now they have excuse from recent buffs, literally Nasus is now playable not Op but playable.

Swiftstrike4Jul 27, 20171 votes

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Honestly, it felt amazing last night. I played a game where I didn't do too hot in terms of kill to death ratios but I racked up 15 assists (1/6/15) which used to be hard as fuck to do as Nasus because you typically couldn't front line very well unless you went full tank and that really felt underwhelming. But with the percentage pen and DPS I have with Q on ult, I actually could DPS down a sejuani and thresh. It was pretty nice to do this and I constantly found myself shit talking out loud, mocking their situation saying "what's wrong dumb tank main, you can't stand on top of me and ignore me anymore, awwwwwwwwww!"

I am going to recommend you check out the Nasus subreddit if you haven't yet. It has become much more lively and the Nasus discussion is pretty good. When I first joined the sub, it was pretty inactive. But a lot of players started playing again over the last couple months and Angormus posts their pretty regularly.

I shifted from posting here about Nasus to mostly posting there or summoner school. I think the discussion is just a lot better and there and the people are simply friendly.

I think the Nasus discussion on the league forums in general, has always been reduced to low Elo players thinking he is OP and complaining, and high elo players complaining that he sucks. Anyways check it out sometime.

RexxieeJul 28, 20172 votes

Only problem is how ridiculous he is at lvl 9 regardless if hes feeding or not.

Rank 1 ult should absolutely not give him a sub 1s cd Q.

LyingOnLineJul 28, 20174 votes

Fortunately for you, it doesn't.

Terror13Aug 15, 20171 votes

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Only problem is how ridiculous he is at lvl 9 regardless if hes feeding or not.

Rank 1 ult should absolutely not give him a sub 1s cd Q.

It doesn't, if you have max CDR it gives 1.2 sec, ontop of it.

And seeing as msot champs in this game can insta kill you with a mix of ability combo, yet nasus if he doesn't do 100% dmg with one Q hes gotta wait a whole 4 to 2.4 seconds to then hit again, he doesn't really "one shot" this is a buff hes needed for a LONG time.

Because whilst nasus looks good on paper, he actually ends up being one of the lowest dps chars in the game, even with like 700 stacks, because if you don't 1 shot em with old nasus, there is a high chance you wont get another chance to Q unless it's a 1v1 with a low mobiltiy champ with not much cc.

Shadow HazardJul 27, 20171 votes

Going by stats, both the pick rate and win rate spiked up (not to the level of obnoxious need for hotfix). I am assuming honestly his stats will still probably climb up a bit though as more people keep improving with him. And will likely be tuned down a bit in the future.

LadyRenlyJul 27, 20171 votes

I freaking love new nasus, his ult has been offered a bit more respect. If he proves to be a problem, I think upping the cd on the ult would be fair.

korg023Jul 28, 20171 votes

That moment when jungler Rengar ganks me and i turn around with ulti 1v2. The whack a mole

korg023Jul 28, 20171 votes

I wouldnt be surprised if Riot nerfs him just when he became playable. Lets remember he is not OP or Broken but just playable. The ammount if cry from other people i just cant...