Lucian/Ashe main going to Dota2 for a bit of time

D357R0Y3R··5 votes·1,722 views

Listen to this: I wrote this thread in attempt to make Riot realise something. I do not think that Dota2 is better or anything like that in fact I fucking hate how boring some heroes are and I hate the mechanics of the game, sideshops and fontains in the jungle(shrines) are cancerous to me. But there is something in Dota that i can probably still find, something that disappeared from league.

I am totally fine with other classes than marksmen going bot lane I do know that my main Lucian is broken right now But I still can't enjoy the game, the reason is because of how a joke the carry role had become

Be it marksmen or something else (with the exception of few very overpowered pick) it does not feel like you're playing a carry at all. Because literally everyone, the 10 players in the game feel like transporting an atomic bomb.

From the very begining i loved the carry role, it was always dominated by marksmen and i'm glad that other champions are seeing the light of the day in that role, but do you know what that role was? that role was farming for a long time, and then being the main damage dealing champion of the game. I don't know how it sounds, but farming was always a skill of that role, the real difference between a master tier and a challenger tier adc is their ability to get gold, the challenger player ALWAYS make a ton of incom way more than a master tier player.

But right now it feels like nothing, it feels like you have kill pressure after lvl 3 no matter who you are (unless some exception) And the worst feeling is that even if you farmed, it feels like it doesn't matter because someone else can do what you ccan do because as i said EVERYONE carries an atomic bomb explain to me why the 0/5 brand can threaten my team as much as I can threaten their team?

that's the second thing, even supports are dealing so much damage it's blowing the fuck out of me WHY IS REKKLESS PLAYING KARMA AND JANNA BOT LANE, WHY IS THERE BRAUM MID IN MY GAMES OR TARIC MID? why are supports scaling as hard as mages why are they playing 2 supports in every single pro game why are supports allowed to give their farm to kai sa jungle/whoever the fuck they want, and still be relevant because of support gold generation

At first when Dopa said that supports were broken and that they make too much gold making midlaners irrelevant I thought it was a joke but then just today I realised this since when midlane is a bitch lane? why are they playing braum mid? why is midlaner picking an utility champion and giving their farm to their team AND STILL BEING AS RELEVANT AS THE OTHER LANER?

but the most question is why is everyone ok with this? why are people ok with such a boring meta where supports are insanely overpowered outcrowding everyone except few picks like Zoe ? is it fun watching jizuke getting bullied as talon by lulu in lcs? are people thinking that it's ok for a Lulu to bully talon and later bring so much utility AND damage?

this is why i chose for a while to step aside from league I do not feel rewarded for playing the gameplay i'm supposed to play, when someone else can be as relevant as me without doing anything in the game I do not feel fun when there is no role in this game this meta right now is a 5 carry meta, everyone deals a lot of damage, why should I be scarred of Rakan Janna when i'm 40% health It became even more boring when summoner 12 became mandatory bot lane

I want league to feel like chess where you move different pieces, where there is a king to protect, or a king to kill with different strategies than "unleash everything" I want each individual to have clear different role in the game, not doing the same, not all carrying atomic bombs I don't want mages/assassins to deal as much damage as Lulu mid or other shit like that

bigup to midlaners, your lane must be really fun to play right now

11 Comments

Colton1474 votes

Janna and Lulu are in a gutted state after their nerfs and are badly in need of compensation buffs.

Rakan is trash and is in need of buffs.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Do guys like you just want to troll? Rakan is one of the most broken supps right now, dafuq.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

Depends on the elo Not expecting rakan to be broken in something like silver

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

guess you are right. One of the problems on boards or with the community in general is that a lot of complaints are just perspective and vary from elo to elo.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

Be it marksmen or something else (with the exception of few very overpowered pick) it does not feel like you're playing a carry at all. Because literally everyone, the 10 players in the game feel like transporting an atomic bomb.

Everyone asked for this... Tanks b*tch for having damages and duel everyone, Mages wan't to OS squishy with one rotations spells (regardless how's hard its to land his spells Brand )...

is it fun watching jizuke getting bullied as talon by lulu in lcs?

Definitly not... having already been in similare situation, it infuriate me. Mainly when u have a timer on your head, saying you'll get outscaled by this sh*t, and become irrevelant contrary to Lulu.

this meta right now is a 5 carry meta, everyone deals a lot of damage, why should I be scarred of Rakan Janna when i'm 40% health

Cause riot think having shit ton mobilities and CC isn't enough. Like Rakan wasn't strong enough when he was just a CC bot (with great mobility).

since when midlane is a bitch lane? why are they playing braum mid? why is midlaner picking an utility champion and giving their farm to their team AND STILL BEING AS RELEVANT AS THE OTHER LANER?

but the most question is why is everyone ok with this?

don't know, i saw many toplaners complains about this in the past when it wasn't so popular (Yi Taric, Aatrox Taric...). But now... nothing.

Was planned to rework enchanter this year but...

D357R0Y3R2 votes

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Everyone asked for this

Well shit

Jarring2 votes

well have fun learning how to cs in dota. i played it for years, and as soon as i picked up LoL my cs skills in dota went to absolute shit. So lame. idk what the game is like now.. i haven't played it since 2015 or so when leshrac had a 100% ban/pick rate in pro play. I haven't played at all since they introduced the shrines. tbh they sound pretty stupid. but meh. I really like that you can deny cs by last hitting your own minions, you lose gold when you die, you can stack jg camps as well as pull them to your minion waves..lots of cool stuff as well as awesome items. build diversity is huge in the game. also the pick phase is huge...it's not so cut and dry like LoL is. It requires intelligence. GL

D357R0Y3R1 votes

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well have fun learning how to cs in dota.

csing in dota as a carry is easier than in league because you can buy culling blade

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Wonder why this gets downvoted. I saw that lulu vs talon. Disgusting.

While i necessarily don't agree that marksmen should be THE carry role everything else is basically spot on.

Metal Janna1 votes

Picking Talon into Lulu is dumb. Of course the champion with shittons of peel and a knockup that only works in melee range counters the super high mobility melee assassin. Lulu's WR is only above 50% in mid lane, which suggests that someone screwed up balancing and made her better at her offrole than her main role.

Starboyˇ1 votes

Rakan doesn't do a lot of damage what the fuck am i reading

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