I'm not going to lie, laning against trundle is one of the most frustrating and unfun experiences

Hibeki·Aug 16, 2016·3 votes·455 views

Trundle is like pre nerf veigar, even if you win, you lose.

I was 0/1 to trundle from a greedy dive, but it didn't matter, I had triple his cs and he could still beat me in 1v1s.

I really don't get how stealing 4 vital stats on a champion could possibly be considered fun in a laning phase.

Build tank while ahead? Now hes tanky because he stole it. Build damage? Less damage cause ad steal. Build health? Nope, steals that too.

I mean Veigars ult used to have an 80% ap ratio of the Targets ap meaning that even if he lost lane, he still won.

Trundle it's just he steals everything to the point that you can't win against him regardless of what you do unless the jungler camps him

And even if you do try to fight him he just endlessly kites you with that ridiculous icy dildo slow and movespeed boost.

What to do to make this less frustrating?

10 Comments

TehNACHOAug 16, 20162 votes

If anyone is curious, here is the game in question.

Feel like you just got counterpicked hard.

HibekiAug 16, 20161 votes

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If anyone is curious, here is the game in question.

Feel like you just got counterpicked hard.

That game was....disastrous. In multiple reasons.

I played poorly, I totally did. All my teammates did too. That game was a wreck. But the laning phase was me absolutely dominating him to the point where he couldnt even get minion exp. But as soon as he bought Cutlass and two daggers vs my BLACK CLEAVER I lost fights.

My olaf is a hit or a miss btw. I either do really well or really poorly.

Also it's not just this game in particular, it's pretty much every time i'm laning him

PhDs NutsAug 16, 20162 votes

Trundle finished his BoRK before you finished Black Cleaver, so that part of the story is BS already. He had BoRK+Chain Vest while you had Cleaver. As soon as you bought it, it looks like you tower dove or teamfought under their top turret and gave him another double kill.

That's not a Trundle problem.

LXIIAug 16, 20161 votes

While I realize there are ways to beat him, I agree with you 100%. He's one of those annoying champs that you can beat into the ground then still get 1v1'd by. They really love to hop in /all and call you out for being "too scared to 1v1 even though I'm 0/3/0"

EDIT: All of that would be fine too if he didn't have a 9000% slow that creates a wall while also getting a MS, AtS, and Healing buff from another ability.

RogueWillAug 16, 20161 votes

I really doubt you had that triple CS as you claim. The most you were ahead was 600G when you died to him the first time (I'm assuming that's the dive you were talking about), that's roughly 30 cs difference at roughly 6:30 min. For that to be truth he would have to have less than 10 cs.... And since you died that advantage got further reduced,

You might have won lane but is not like you were stomping him, it was fairly equal

HibekiAug 16, 20161 votes

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I really doubt you had that triple CS as you claim. The most you were ahead was 600G when you died to him the first time (I'm assuming that's the dive you were talking about), that's roughly 30 cs difference at roughly 6:30 min. For that to be truth he would have to have less than 10 cs.... And since you died that advantage got further reduced,

You might have won lane but is not like you were stomping him, it was fairly equal

After that one death was when the Cs lead happened. I still posed a huge threat at that point, had levels on him, gold, and a better kit, at one point I had 85 cs to his 29 (something around that). He had 300g from that kill, so the gold lead was less, but I still was way ahead of him on gold.

RogueWillAug 16, 20161 votes

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After that one death was when the Cs lead happened. I still posed a huge threat at that point, had levels on him, gold, and a better kit, at one point I had 85 cs to his 29 (something around that). He had 300g from that kill, so the gold lead was less, but I still was way ahead of him on gold.

I saw the match history (Im talking about the olaf game). The most gold difference was 600g right before you died, after that gold was leveled so if the cs was as high as you were saying then you have died way too many times

Friendly RamAug 16, 20161 votes

Apply lube? but seriously he is quite difficult to play around and i'd love if his ulti scaled based on the difference in stats rather than how much you built.

NGNL AsianAug 16, 20161 votes

He's scary no matter what. Once he ults you, he can beat you even when he's down 10 kills from you

MatezoideAug 16, 20161 votes

Trundle is one of the best duelists in the game. Just back-off when he ults.

I havent played in forever, what did i miss? Did they buff Trundle? Because he has literally always been like that even before they ruined his original design.