Okay thats it,I'm tired of bruiser yi

Lady Hammerlock·Feb 27, 2016·34 votes·1,623 views

LIKE CMON i was keeping my patience for this champion and thought "hey i don't want to be that casual bronzie that QQ's over yi"

But are you serious? this isn't even fair difficult to kill while having an easier time killing

ripping my adc as fast as talon only Yi is harder to kill i mean god knows what a good yi can already do with alpha strike and meditate the tank portion is just insult to injury

EDIT:my only idea for a nerf make alpha strike a 0.9 AD ratio and make his E scale only with bonus AD(this means steraks won't give damage to his E) and reduce the cooldown reduction affect on his Q on champion to only 0.75 sec

This would overall force yi to build more damage to deal damage

28 Comments

ShadòwRosé Feb 27, 20166 votes

Yi is very overpowered when fed. However, if he ain't fed he becomes the opposite - useless. It's high risk, high reward champion. I really think you should try to counter and kill him early. Invade his jungle, etc. Don't let him get fed. That's the only way to deal with him. After he does the item 3742 item 3124 combo he becomes a monster.

Lady HammerlockFeb 27, 20161 votes

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Yi is very overpowered when fed. However, if he ain't fed he becomes the opposite - useless. It's high risk, high reward champion. I really think you should try to counter and kill him early. Invade his jungle, etc. Don't let him get fed. That's the only way to deal with him. After he does the combo he becomes a monster.

which means he'd simply aft farm and not think about ganking....which is worse... because now instead of ripping my team mates his team mates suffer without banks thats also an issue

A Miss FortuneFeb 27, 20161 votes

Yi doesn't really need to be fed due to his true damage. Plus he is a bruiser so he can peel a lot of damage from his Mid and ADC anyways. I'm not saying a 0-10 Yi is going to walk up to you and one-shot you, but if he doesn't get fed he still has a considerable amount of damage due to him having all 3 different forms of damage.

Neo CyrusFeb 27, 20165 votes

It doesn't matter the Elo. Yi is AIDS from Bronze to Challenjour. If you ever question how much of a disease Yi is just watch any Yi main streaming.

If I have a ban and Zed is already banned Yi is the next one I ban. They really need to increase bans to 10.

WadeWilson1337Feb 28, 20161 votes

You have no idea what you are talking about. The only time ive seen Yi played since preseason in challenger was Meteos, and he was troll picking it. Yi is not picked AT ALL in challenger. And hes incredibly rare in Masters, like, i think Shyvana gets picked more than Yi in masters and thats only because Valkrin plays it. Please, do not act like Yi is an unstoppable broken force that cant be stopped. Past diamond he is trash tier because they will just pick Nidalee and you will feed your living ass off because you cant farm. Yi is good in lower elo because people dont know how to punish junglers with bad early games and games tend to go on longer, where Yi scales like crazy.

Lady HammerlockFeb 28, 20162 votes

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You have no idea what you are talking about. The only time ive seen Yi played since preseason in challenger was Meteos, and he was troll picking it. Yi is not picked AT ALL in challenger. And hes incredibly rare in Masters, like, i think Shyvana gets picked more than Yi in masters and thats only because Valkrin plays it. Please, do not act like Yi is an unstoppable broken force that cant be stopped. Past diamond he is trash tier because they will just pick Nidalee and you will feed your living ass off because you cant farm. Yi is good in lower elo because people dont know how to punish junglers with bad early games and games tend to go on longer, where Yi scales like crazy.

there is a specific guy ravaging korea cough with cough bruiser YI

WadeWilson1337Feb 28, 20161 votes

Cowsep isnt even challenger... He is also a one trick pony, i would hope that he does well with a champion seeing as how its legitimately all he plays.

Lady HammerlockFeb 28, 20162 votes

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Cowsep isnt even challenger... He is also a one trick pony, i would hope that he does well with a champion seeing as how its legitimately all he plays.

he plays Kayle to fyi..

WadeWilson1337Feb 28, 20161 votes

Oh, so sorry, he plays Kayle and Tryndamere once for every 5-10 games he plays Yi. My bad. Even though hes literally only known for playing Master Yi and only really plays them when Yi is picked or banned.

PiVoRxFeb 27, 20163 votes

You found a champion that even LCS players didnt even know about. Or they just dont play Yi in competitive cause he sucks ass?

FowusFeb 28, 20161 votes

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You found a champion that even LCS players didnt even know about. Or they just dont play Yi in competitive cause he sucks ass?

because teams can deal with him in the lcs

Count ZubatFeb 28, 20164 votes

Farm junglers will never be played in LCS because it's relatively easy to control enemy jungle when playing in organised team. But in SoloQ, it's quite the opposite, you'll never have enough of jungle control to completely stop farming jungler and venturing to deep into enemy jungle is very risky because there isn't too much communication between you and you teammates so if you get caught, they won't always be able to come and help you out. Sorry, Yi destroys SoloQ even in challenger tier, he is truly broken, it's not only noob dunking anymore.

AnidanFeb 28, 20161 votes

The primary motivation to reworking him, if they do, is that he stomps in solo queue, but gets stomped in organized competitive play. So, if he's changed for that reason, then it's only fair for Heimer to get reworked as well since they've already said balancing him comes with the same problems - if he's strong enough to be viable in pro play, he'd be completely ludicrous in solo queue.

PiVoRxFeb 28, 20161 votes

This goes both ways, if LCS team would like to play around Yi, they would do it, but its not possible cause this champion is general garbage.

See Udyr for example, he sees some competitive apperances but only cause he become very strong. Since nobody still uses Yi in LCS, its just means hes garbage and people complaining about him should l2p.

CarryFeb 27, 20162 votes

IMO change his scalings so that he scales way worse with on-hit but better with Crit+AD+AS so that he has to build glass cannon to do high damage again. Fervor + sated + guinsoos gives him too much "base damage" that he doesn't need multipliers for outside of the AS on those items and his kit.

Glass cannon yi is pretty fun and cool imo. Good alpha and W usage feels really rewarding on glass cannon Yi. You die instantly if you fuck it up but blow up targets in Q and 1-2 autos if you use your abilities well to avoid burst and CC.

Some specific changes that would help: change Q to bonus AD scaling instead of total and increase multiplier if it crits, reduce base true damage on E from ranks and change it from total to bonus AD scaling and increase the ratio or allow it to crit, maybe do something similar with his interaction with fervor so that it scales with stats other than AS but doesn't give so much damage with just AS.

Packun FlowerFeb 28, 20162 votes

Then problem lies ore with item 3124 rather then the champion. Rage blade right is arguably one of the best items of the game and really should be addressed by Riot.

PledgieFeb 28, 20161 votes

agreed

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 27, 20161 votes

Actually Yi is broken, his design is amazing but he's in no need of AD/AP and hyper synergizes with AS thus on-hits. Yi was designed too well about AA'ing targets so he only builds 2 AS items then goes full tank and outperforms what his Full damage counterpart could dream of.

Personally I feel yi might be balanceable without a rework if they remove the innate tank stats from his self-heal by making it only apply for 1 hit instead of the full duration, that in itself would fix alot of the issues.

ModAttysu The PoroFeb 27, 20161 votes

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Actually Yi is broken, his design is amazing but he's in no need of AD/AP and hyper synergizes with AS thus on-hits. Yi was designed too well about AA'ing targets so he only builds 2 AS items then goes full tank and outperforms what his Full damage counterpart could dream of.

Personally I feel yi might be balanceable without a rework if they remove the innate tank stats from his self-heal by making it only apply for 1 hit instead of the full duration, that in itself would fix alot of the issues.

Like Braum's shield, completely ignores first hit, REDUCED damage after.

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 27, 20161 votes

Yea but without the reduced damage after (Currently it's heavily reduced damage taken for the entire duration.

TaoistMasterFeb 27, 20161 votes

we just need to rework feral flare again

forrestoFeb 27, 20161 votes

if you're complaining about bruiser yi, wait till you see bruiser yasuo

Unstoppable MonkFeb 27, 20161 votes

Viktor SILLY FLESH MAJORITY ORIGINAL POSTER

HadesBladesFeb 28, 20161 votes

Idk im riding him into gold now, call me a dirty yi/xin player. But as long as I ban Nautulis its easy.

WimbledofyFeb 28, 20161 votes

"okay that's it" I don't think you have that kind of power or you don't understand what that phrase means. When you say "that's it" you usually follow it up by doing something (and i don't mean posting about it, because that's the same thing as just saying something.)

Lady HammerlockFeb 28, 20161 votes

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"okay that's it" I don't think you have that kind of power or you don't understand what that phrase means. When you say "that's it" you usually follow it up by doing something (and i don't mean posting about it, because that's the same thing as just saying something.)

Well thats the issue you literally can't simply give Yi the ekko treatment because his bases are low as hell but he has great scaling and a weaker katarina passive

WimbledofyFeb 28, 20161 votes

I didn't mean to criticize your post or say that I don't find yi annoying either. It's just when i read "That's it" it sounded like you were about to give someone a timeout XD