A Possible solution for marksmen (ADC) problem

maliohammad·Jul 4, 2017·3 votes·370 views

Hi , After the support items changes (which I loved as a support main ) , marksmen get much stronger and lost their identity as glass canons , and became a "Ranged Olaf ". The main problem IMO is lifesteal , melee canmpion without gap closers struggle to use it , and get kited to oblivion when they try to use it , while marksmen can use it from range saf ly and still kite you while doing that , and some of them are so mobile (looking at you Lucian ) So , I think if we reduce life steal effectiveness for ranged champions to 50% ( or a little bit more if this is too harsh of a nerf ) so they can be less of "Drain Tanks " , as in the current state they heal much more than my Vladimir What do you think about this idea ? Thanks for reading [slayer-jinx-catface]

11 Comments

rtbf221651412Jul 4, 20174 votes

You do realize we used to have spell vamp and that was removed because it was 'broken'. Meanwhile, ADC's can crit and get heals from that crit, attack fast and regain health faster that way (basically mundo), and do a lot of damage, increasing their healing even more.

If we are going based on the past and fair treatment, life steal should be removed

Or it should be fixed with spell vamp re-introduced.

maliohammadJul 4, 20172 votes

I would be totally fine with removing lifesteal , or just reduce it , then marksmen will be back to being a glass canon , but this will hit other jungle , top champions who build lifesteal , so reducing lifesteal for ranged seems like a better option for me .

Starcraft243verJul 4, 20171 votes

There's an item that already does that :))

maliohammadJul 4, 20173 votes

Well ... item 3123 isn't that effective against marksmen , as they have ton of lifesteal , high isn't limited by cooldowns or patterns . That item and GW in general is more effective against healing champions like vladimir , swaying ...etc And if we want to consider a marksmen counter , then isn't that item bigger of a counter to to melee champions ?

Starcraft243verJul 4, 20171 votes

Actually the new thornmail on PBE both has cold steel, grievious wounds and HP built in, so it becomes a nice item to buy on any melee champion. And then it's a nerf to lifesteal on autos :).

maliohammadJul 4, 20171 votes

I saw the changes , but still ... the marksmen have to be some kind of retarded to attack the one with that item instead of your mid owner or anyone else without that item . And again , this doesn't hit ranged lifesteal abusers only , it hit melee too (and mages if they throw an auttoattack ) and I can see this item hit top laners than marksmen. Btw , I can't wait until the item gets live and marksmen abusing it (the same way they did with doran shield and tabi boots ) then get it nifedipine into the ground .

khorneyJul 4, 20171 votes

Hmm let's think rand omen , right glory your gap closer issue is solved

maliohammadJul 5, 20171 votes

None of them are gap closers , gap closers are dashes , blinks ..etc item 3800 is bad for most champions , and built mostly by singed . And all of this doesn't contribute to the main problem , which is insane lifesteal from long range