"We're buffing Deathcap and Nerfing all AP items so MAGES BUILD DEATHCAP TO DO MORE DAMAGE"

Ok sure but why··3 votes·560 views

Yet Riot forgot just about all mages have massive base damages on all abilities anyways, so it doesn't matter one bit

Be an ADC against an Orianna and just wait for one QWRQ to swoop past you and chunk you for all your health "Wow, how much AP does she have??!?" "Oh, only 140 item 3165item 3020, nice"

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SwiftKitten884 votes

in confused... what is the op even talking about... when did riot say that.... also that would be completely stupid... why would they ever say that...

also "walking past an ori" ori's ball moves VERY slowly you have PLENTY of time to dodge it if it at a distance... plus it deals less damage for each minion or other target it hits long the way

so WHY did u walk up to ori's ball?

thats like me going... i landed a spear on Garen and he silenced me and killed me.

well no fucking duh.. do go in melee range vs a champ that has a silience that make your make you not be able to summoner 4 dash or use any ability while at the same time being faster on foot than any champion without an escape tool (which they cant use because thier silenced)

aka the moral of this story is.

Use your brain.. and don't walk on top of the enemy ori's ball...

Mordepool3 votes

I guess the ADC should have built at least some defensive items

Ok sure but why3 votes

Yes, let's make the ADC rush a Maw as her very first item, that's not going to affect the laning phase at all

Starcraft243ver3 votes

It's not like oriana has a dash or something, the adc shouldnt be in range of her if she has her cds or isnt not cced.

Death by Glamour2 votes

She could you know

Attach her ball to someone who can engage...

LightIsMyPath1 votes

.. Then the ADC positioned poorly in a teamfight and got engaged on.. Nothing to do with Orianna then he would be 100% dead anyway?

Acheron161 votes

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I guess the ADC should have built at least some defensive items

Mage only builds Zhonia's and then gets two shot by an ADC late game

Roti pls nerf AD, they 2 stronk

Ok sure but why2 votes

yeah at least the adc isn't building TANK late game

LightIsMyPath1 votes

.. Except a sustained damagedealer can afford to give up one damage item, as staying alive more time still lead to more damage.. A burst damage dealer can't afford that because once his rotations is down the defensive item becomes useless ( and a single tank item wouldn't save them long enough to get another rotation), so as long as you are firing your stuff and dying you are still doing better full damage than firing one rotations with less damage and dying 1 second later that you would have with a glass cannon build

Lugg3 votes

ADCs have the same if not more AD with just one item, so I don't see how this is an issue at all.

5050BS3 votes

AP is not in as good of place as AD is right now. There is more AD items with better stats then AP items There are more AD items with more MR on them then AP with Armor.

AD has a self resurrect now...... Because Killing Yasuo or Master Yi is soo ez you want to do it twice.

Dreampod3 votes

And too much CDR on AP items. It is very hard to avoid going over the cap right now if you pick up any utility or defense AP item (which is everything except Rabadon and Luden).

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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And too much CDR on AP items. It is very hard to avoid going over the cap right now if you pick up any utility or defense AP item (which is everything except Rabadon and Luden).

You need 2 utility/defensive items to hit 40 if you aren't running CDR runes.

Otherwise item 3089 item 3135 item 3020 item 3165 takes up 3 slots.

item 3151 item 3116 these two utility also don't give CDR.

Rewt3 votes

I dont think any champ has passive MR scaling, so when a mage gets Pen boots early into the game and is probably 1-2 levels ahead of you + a lot of mage mids run Pen runes, she will basically do true damage to you. Ori's Base damages are pretty lack luster. Its just you probably didnt get a Null Mantel as a layer of protection. It may not seem like much MR, but at like 30MR that null mantel adds like 15% damage reduction.

Funkin Dunkin2 votes

Well people forget that for AP users, when they buy AP it usually improves 4 skills, unlike AD champions where for some reason they have random AP skills mixed in. Ashe Jax Tryndamere. So buying AD does not necessarily mean it's going to help all skills except for maybe riven and kled. Now as far as AP champs go, there are only 2 that have any scaling from AD. Kayle and Morde. Other than that, could you imagine a Leblanc having a random AD skill in their kit?

Dreampod3 votes

Of course it also improves those 0 cooldown, no cost autoattacks too....

Acheron161 votes

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Of course it also improves those 0 cooldown, no cost autoattacks too....

What you mean the ones that do negligible damage because mages can instantly burst them down from total safety until you have 5 items? While playing a character with no CC or utility besides their DPS? A character that is always the n1 target even though it only actually does nothing pre 25 minutes? The one that objectively has the worst base stats in the game?

Funkin Dunkin2 votes

And? AP has item 3100. So what

hater free zone2 votes

Well, you don't play a mage for their utility. You play them to literally do dmg.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Well, you don't play a mage for their utility. You play them to literally do dmg.

Well, Ori has massive utility, she's a teamfighting AoE damage + utility mage...

hater free zone1 votes

If people played Orianna for her utility she would be seen botlane support. She's played for her dmg.

Frightning1 votes

She isn't played support much because her early game isn't actually that strong, and she scales really well with items (I've done it a few times over the years to test and my conclusion has been that her power curve is just wrong for the position, she is mechanically good at it, but just not strong enough early and suffers too much from lessened gold gain of being support v mid lane).

thecowley1 votes

Evelynn also has AP and ad scaling. But its on all 3 damage abilities.

Ok sure but why1 votes

yeah but she's not RANGED and able to INSTAKILL people from a DISTANCE with MINUSCULE amounts of ad/ap

Truly Prideful1 votes

You got hit by a full combo and you think you should just walk away? QWRQ + TLD should just about kill you, sounds like you needed to flash or position to respect the possibility of being combo'd down.

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