Zyras plant AI changes will not be enough.

Ser Garland·Sep 11, 2015·8 votes·565 views

She still has glaring weaknesses (Her mobility, her high CDs, her lack of any defence, her mana costs) so please buff her strengths. And I don't know why you tried to give her knock up an extra .5 seconds of crowd control but that's not the direction she needs.

Her passive is garbage. A 300 damage situational rocket with a highly telegraphed wind up and tons of breathing space UPON Zyra's death, is not even worth a batt of an eye. Early game, you might be able to trade kills with it if you know you're screwed and want to flash towards your enemy. (Which teaches players to do exactly what they're not supposed to do as a mage) Late game, the damage is just unremarkable.

Give it missing health % execute damage Make it activatable immediately upon death and increase the speed. Make it so if Zyra kills someone with this ungodly awful skillshot she should be rewarded with a revive.

8 Comments

PhifeSep 11, 20152 votes

buff her MS to 335 please.

FantasySniperSep 12, 20152 votes

Her weaknesses can be covered up quite easily, her main problem is lack of a passive. I can get kills with it ≈20% of the time, but it still feels so unrewarding.

A Miss FortuneSep 11, 20151 votes

Buffing her passive even then probably won't be enough. The delays on her Q, the mediocre projectile speed/width of her E, and the huge delay on her ultimate's actual knockup makes her probably the most unreliable Mid laner. Some Zyra mains can hit the skill shots, and I'm not saying It's impossible, but with her REALLY high mana costs, she shouldn't be as unreliable as she is. Even Anivia, Cassiopeia, Syndra, etc who are all well known Mana hungry Mid laners have more reliability and even lower Mana costs.

manbearswineSep 11, 20151 votes

Yes zyra's passive isn't great,and yes zyra is lacking power,but do you really want to put the missing power in her death passive?

Wouldn't you rather place it somewhere else(the knockup seems more fun than a stronger death passive as well),is it really such a big deal if her passive remains not very impressive? I mean it's not like kog'maws passive is the reason people pick kog'maw for.

But yeah,they completely wussed out with her buffs,this isn't going to even be close to enough of making most people even consider picking her,in solo q or competitive.

S2C2Xd9KOySep 12, 20151 votes

Tbh I'd settle for 335 move speed and potentially slightly faster missile speed on her passive.

DemaciaClownSep 12, 20153 votes

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Ser GarlandSep 12, 20151 votes

Death passives are the worst. And Zyra has the worst death passive.

HupsisSep 12, 20151 votes

"...so please buff her strengths. And I don't know why you tried to give her knock up an extra .5 seconds of crowd control but that's not the direction she needs."

Her strength is her cc. Buffing her strengths includes buffing the duration of her ult knock up. But it doesn't matter anymore since the change got reverted.

I don't mind her being a low movement speed champion. It only means she has to be mindful of her surroundings and possible threats.

Remaking her passive into a real passive would be good. "Zyra roots herself in place after staying still for 3-4 seconds. Her spells have increased range and seeds charge up 50% faster and snare enemies for a short duration near Zyra when she has rooted herself. Moving removes the effect." I don't like her post-death passive.