Remove Morde's Health costs completely

Kingsgrave··3 votes·351 views

I honestly don't think he needs them anymore and there doesn't really seem to be a reason for them to exist

He would have actual build diversity beyond being forced to rush Spellvamp and he isn't that tanky, oppressive or bursty anymore.

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thinking man1 votes

okay but they have to make spell vamp seriously shit on him so he doesn't build it anymore if you make it so he doesn't need it

Leti the Yeti2 votes

I thought the only reason why mord needed it to begin with WAS because he had hp costs and no sustain ;l

so if you remove his cost, he can idk buy rylais or somthing instead

Kingsgrave1 votes

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okay but they have to make spell vamp seriously shit on him so he doesn't build it anymore if you make it so he doesn't need it

He only buys it because he has to

I really doubt he would buy it after this change

Dralun1 votes

They would need to nerf him to compensate. Despite morde being an underplayed champion with no mobility, so the community likes to ride their dicks that they are worse than they actually are, Morde isn't that bad ATM. The reason he is given those health costs is to make it so spamming his E over and over again at least comes with some sort of cost. Morde is one of the few champions that when they burn their first ranked spell they aren't open, since his passive gives him the shield, furthermore since he was pushing the wave he likely has minion advantage. This puts a major emphasis on your jungler to help, and needing a jungler to help you kill a champion because of design isn't good gameplay design, for either the morde, or his opponent.

The would have to change his passive to make this change good, something that would make morde more open when blowing his E and whiffing you but still getting a shield from hitting your minions. If this was done I'd actually prefer such a change.

Matezoide1 votes

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Zed item 3114

If Mord is spamming, he is pushing his lane and cant do shit if he is ganked. His E damage is pretty damn pathetic until he gets some AP.

Unless he is literally hitting you and your minion wave at the same time, his spam isnt an issue.

Dralun1 votes

Yea, that's what I said, he has minion advantage, aka pushing. And that's what I said, the best option is to gank him, and that's not good gameplay design. The problem with morde is he HAS to spam E, because he makes no use of this passive if he doesn't, and is easily harassed or all'ind, especially pre 6, without it.

And pretty damn pathetic? Really? 70 / 115 / 160 / 205 / 250 On a 6 second cooldown with 700 skillshot range is pathetic? I'm not gonna call it good but I wouldn't call that pathetic at all. I'd look at syndra Q if you want to see pathetic. Keep in mind he's getting a shield on top of that, 35% of the damage he put on you, and that's not counting if he hits minions, which 9 times out of 10, he's going to be. That is precisely the problem with his spamming, it's extremely difficult to punish it. And as far as AP ratios are concerned, he's sitting at .6 on that E, which is on the low side.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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Meanwhile

Zed item 3114

If Mord is spamming, he is pushing his lane and cant do shit if he is ganked. His E damage is pretty damn pathetic until he gets some AP.

Unless he is literally hitting you and your minion wave at the same time, his spam isnt an issue.

Since when is 250ish damage on a low cd pathetic?

Matezoide1 votes

The should just give him mana instead. Then i can rush a Morello's, get every stat i want on him instead of fucking spellvamp.

DestructoDave1 votes

Dralun you might have a point years ago when champions were released with real resources, compared to all the trash that comes out nowadays, that either has no resource besides cds, which are always low which makes me chuckle, uses energy (lol), or has small mana costs compared to older champs.

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