I'm really concerned about the prospect of buffing Syndra

HateDaddy··2 votes·615 views

Before you go crazy with the downvotes, just read this and hear me out..

Let's remember what she was before she was nerfed in the first place. She was an extremely oppressive lane bully that scaled well into late game because she has one of the highest single target burst potential of any champion in the game. Now, I'll grant you this, a big part of what made her so abusive was DFG, but I don't think the removal of that item will suddenly make her less oppressive to play against in lane.

I know everyone is up in arms about the true damage but I don't know how much of that will really make a difference, her raw damage output was still pretty absurd regardless. Making a champion that can kill you fast have the power to kill you faster isn't usually that big of a deal believe it or not, you typically address that champions means to setting up those kills and that often came in the form of her stun, and that's what I'm mostly concerned about. Making the hitbox larger is an extremely terrifying prospect that potentially returns her to that once oppressive state in which many people wanted her nerfed out of existence.

I might much rather see a buff to her mana costs moreso than anything, giving her more raw damage probably isn't that big of a deal either but the stun hitbox scares the crap out of me. I don't know what about these buffs will suddenly not make her an oppressive Laner again, which is probably something you'd want to stay away from. I know this won't be a popular opinion, but I think buffing her hitbox is a bad idea.

12 Comments

Skia Asteri2 votes

E max bonus is a wider cone on the knock back, not stun hit box.

shteeeb2 votes

The buff is not that big.

And what the hell are you going on about with being scared of her becoming a lane bully?

Her buffs would literally not exist until she hits level 9 and 13.

And the Q buff affects her damage versus resistance stackers more than squishies.

Her Q will still be useless until rank 3. (lol 50 base dmg at rank 1. Pay mana for an autoattack worth of damage.)

Mongoose1 votes

Hate daddy pls

IcyPepper1 votes

Well, let's hope they test this out thoroughly then. If it's a bad idea, it's a bad idea. If it's not, then at least they tested it first.

HateDaddy1 votes

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Well, let's hope they test this out thoroughly then. If it's a bad idea, it's a bad idea. If it's not, then at least they tested it first.

Well sure, it's PBE and I've no issues with it being on there to be tested. But in that same light, it's pbe and you're supposed to get feedback on both the positive and negative potential of buffs/nerfs, so it goes both ways.

IcyPepper1 votes

It'll definitely feel good for the Syndra players, but not so much for people playing against her. And we all know how many times that has happened, so let's hope Syndra doesn't turn anti-fun with these changes...

UltraSceptile1 votes

She has no mobility, double the ratios on all her abilities while making her manaless rito plox.

LoLKiru1 votes

I don't think her stun hitbox is becoming larger.

Pretty sure its the cone that Scatter the Weak creates becoming larger (so it gives her more leeway to actually fire dark spheres at you given that she can now likely hit more spheres than usual)

HateDaddy1 votes

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I don't think her stun hitbox is becoming larger.

Pretty sure its the cone that Scatter the Weak creates becoming larger (so it gives her more leeway to actually fire dark spheres at you given that she can now likely hit more spheres than usual)

Hmm I read it as the stun gaining more size but I think you're right actually, but wouldn't that still make it easier to land her stun overall?

LoLKiru1 votes

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Hmm I read it as the stun gaining more size but I think you're right actually, but wouldn't that still make it easier to land her stun overall?

Er, sort of? It makes it SLIGHTLY easier to do multiple Dark Sphere shots (notably Syndra is now more rewarded for doing a 5~6 sphere ult and then just using E to mass-stun everyone since its easier to hit every Dark Sphere now)

it doesn't make it any easier to hit a single target though. Worth noting Scatter the Weak itself DOES push you back if the cone hits you (doesn't stun though without a dark sphere actually hitting you) so I guess it also makes it slightly easier to push more people back if multiple people are chasing her.

HateDaddy1 votes

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Er, sort of? It makes it SLIGHTLY easier to do multiple Dark Sphere shots (notably Syndra is now more rewarded for doing a 5~6 sphere ult and then just using E to mass-stun everyone since its easier to hit every Dark Sphere now)

it doesn't make it any easier to hit a single target though. Worth noting Scatter the Weak itself DOES push you back if the cone hits you (doesn't stun though without a dark sphere actually hitting you) so I guess it also makes it slightly easier to push more people back if multiple people are chasing her.

Okay then I completely misunderstood it then, which is my bad. On paper that doesn't sound too terrible, we will have to see

PopCorn Chick3n1 votes

Her E (scatter of the weaker)'s cone is larger at max level, not the stun hit-box. I think you are confused or misunderstand the buff.

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