give anyone a 400% scaling ult

The Bard Dog·Jun 28, 2015·2 votes·684 views

and it instantly becomes incredibly broken so why does get that AND a knockup?

imagine with a 400% scaling ult.

12 Comments

ShuffledPancakeJun 28, 20153 votes

Ah but wukong isnt op at all, your point?

The Bard DogJun 28, 20152 votes

are you saying a guy who can stealth, e into a team, knock them all up and melt them at the same time while 4 other people are also hitting them isn't op? right right.

Kamiroo WolfJun 28, 20152 votes

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are you saying a guy who can stealth, e into a team, knock them all up and melt them at the same time while 4 other people are also hitting them isn't op? right right.

He really isn't though...he is strong, sure(some might even say he is the best top laner right now...cough Tryndamere Chogath Riven ), but not so strong that he is, by any means, broken.

ShuffledPancakeJun 28, 20152 votes

No its not, he is an easy kill if he goes ad, he is super easy to cc after stealth, you can stop his e, you can stop his ult with basic spells (azirs ult, alistar w q combo etc)

doublelift fgJun 28, 20151 votes

yea, i'm saying it because you can just split and not group and have one guy who has knock-back staying behind and just gtfo him.

or have a 80% slow like Rengar Braum Zilean and slow him so he can't follow you while ultying

TheRakkunJun 28, 20151 votes

Stealth is really telegraphed he has no escape unless enemy units are around and it's basically a katarina ult but with a knockup and limited mobility instead of range and grievous wounds

Br4ndonJun 28, 20151 votes

to be fair he isnt AAing during his ult. 200+(1.1ad) a second is like a midgame adc criting 4 autos over 4 seconds, when hes lvl 16.

I think wukong has a lot of passive things going on that you cant really interact with though.

BobbyCarHaterXJun 28, 20151 votes

Imagine Katarina with a high scaling ult

oh wait

Mew Goes ADJun 28, 20151 votes

The only champ that needs a 400% scaling ult is Karthus.

Critmaster GarenJun 28, 20151 votes

ad scaling is different from ap scaling in the first place.

the most amount of ad you can gather over the course of the game will be about up to 400. while the limit for ap is sually at about 750 to 800. (unless your name is veigar). so thats why ad scalings on spells look very high in the first place. an ad scaling of 1.0 is basically auto attack damage. while on ap champs this is already a pretty high value.

additionally, wukongs ult is a damage over time effect. he applies those 440% ad over the course of 4 seconds. which equals to roughly 1 auto attack per second. not that crazy if you think about it.

a lot of the champions you described (like lux, darius, or riven) apply their ult damage instantly.

Blue Collar BearJun 28, 20151 votes

Well, you forgot to mention the fact that it deals that 440% scaling damage in ticks. That's just the total damage. Reflex and reaction time accounted for, there would probably only be maybe half that. It would take good coordination and organization to pull off the entirety of that damage, which in itself should be a reward. When it's extremely hard to even get off two seconds of his ultimate, think of someone like Pantheon who can easily get his abilities (500% total bonus AD ratios, not counting auto resets and crit) off on another target. It's easy to describe good qualities and make it seem as if all their bad qualities disappear.