I think new Jungle is Fail - It should promote diversity ? but it's opposite + not enough XP

XuWarrior··2 votes·903 views

Would Like to discuss Something. Dont know if it's Number adjustment or what but new jungle is BAD.(bear in mind English is not mine native language but i hope you will understand)

1st Case - Diversity ? If you are not massive sustainer you are doomed. WW + Fiddle + Nunu . New kings of jungle. Why ? thanks to sustain. Jungle monsters hittin like a 1000000 Teemo's now .. Give them less HP or lower their dmg..

2nd Case - Most junglers fall behind with XP . Why ? Case nr 1. If you are NOT sustain jungler you need get back to base after 2 camps = auto loose XP.It can be Solved a 2 ways. Again Lower hp dmg Jungle monsters OR lower cost of machete so junglers gonna have more HP potions

3rd Case - Ganking ? Again the same case . If you fail gank (you not gonna get XP) you gonna fall off with XP .

3 games in raw i had gankin junglers . Ex. Mid laner lvl 7 , Lee lvl 3 maby 4...

4th Case - CounerJungling ? Not Worth due to Resapwn Timers. Ex. You see Jungler at the bottom of the map. Hey let's counter jungle him . You going top Map but "HEY there is no Camps bc now they have 1 minute spawn" ...

5th Case - Gold Reward ? also Not enough. Now to be relevant jungler you need FARM FARM FARM FARM to the point where you gonna have at least 2 core items. There is no more poacher passive. So you fallin off with GOLD + XP

6th case - not about junglers. Bot lane has now advantage . (problem from season 2 or 3 ?). If they gonna do golems/Frog. They have half bar filled with XP . So it's again who gonna hit lvl 2 faster.

#Discuss

6 Comments

JadeKnightblazer2 votes

All valid points, which I hope is address by Riot on the PBE soon enough.

XuWarrior1 votes

1st and 2nd case can be easly solved. Lower cost of machete = more HP potions or Lower DMG HP jungle monsters.

Still worried about XP though + gold

EffectFX2 votes

1st. They want the jungler to be harder for junglers who want to go glass cannon. Fully intentional. 2nd. I seem to keep up fine when I jungle. 3rd. Don't screw up the gank then? Ganking has always been like that, that's not new. 4th. Actually it is worth it. Because it has a longer spawn timer, going and clearing out the big monster pretty much sets the other jungler back quite a bit because they have to go and kill the little minions and then wait for that minute. By the way, use wards to track camps. 5th. I didn't fall behind when jungling. 6th. I have yet to see any bot lanes doing grom or golems.

ˆˆºº1 votes

Give it more than 4 days.

XuWarrior1 votes

Also Problem from Season 2 or 3 came back. Bot lane can do make frog/golems and they hittin lvl 2 faster. So Riot need to move Timers for that also .

ujf2qEqxi91 votes

Yea... new jungle sucks for carry junglers. If you're not tank, you're not winning.

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