Lethality: what the f***?

Thilmer··5 votes·1,318 views

I have just been stomped by a Trundle jungle with item 3147 item 3142 and 0 tank ítems because he could kill anyone in the team with one Q and two autoattacks.

Is about time to admit lethality is not a balanced stat. At least nerf this damn thing item 3147 . i have never understood why it was introduced in the game, in first place, and now is a gamebreaking ítem.

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elo trash3 votes

RIP season 5

AKA the best season :(

Therion773 votes

He rushed lethality, didn't he? Randuin's item 3143 and Ninja Tabis item 3047 are your best friends in that scenario. Trundle is auto-attack reliant just like a marksman.

All lethality does is negate the base armor of a champ. If you don't have additional armor it's your own fault. Hover over the armor stat in-game and check out the damage reduction %. It'll typically be between 20-25% for a lot of champions at level 1. Stack enough lethality to negate all of that base armor and you're basically doing that % in additional attack damage, which is why it's so effective on anyone without additional armor items. Most mages and ADCs start out around 30 armor at level 1 and climb to around 85 at level 18.

The old rune system helped since everyone ran +Armor. Lethality has a lot more impact early game now. I'm bad with the formula, but if someone has 29 base armor, Jhin for instance, and the enemy has 29 lethality, that technically means you'd be losing that 22% damage reduction, and they'd be doing 22% more damage to you. --- It should be a 1 / 1 ratio on the lethality / base armor if I remember correctly. --- And this is why lethality is sometimes stronger than building crit early to mid game on a lot of champions: it's guaranteed calculated damage on demand rather than praying for a lucky crit.

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I did this a few games back when a Talon and Yasuo wouldn't stop bullying me. --- They finally learned their lesson, and Talon could no longer solo me, although he kept trying, probably because he didn't understand the lethality mechanics. Abuse people who don't understand how it works and you'll be out of Bronze in no time. I was ignorant about all of it for a very long, long time.

You have to be more choosy with equipment down here in Low Eloville. Sometimes I build weird sh*t as an ADC just because I know I won't get a peel in team fights. What's the point of having high AD if you can't stay alive for more than 2 seconds in a team fight?

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RenownedWheat423 votes

He was fed like a motherfucker and no one bought any armor aside from your tabis.

dunder kill2 votes

You just going to leave out the fact that you guys fed him almost 1 kill per minute and literally the ONLY armor built on your whole team was a single pair of Tabi?

"Why is the 20 kill trundle with the most farm in the game destroying me when I have no armor built?!?!?!"

The funny part is you were also playing Trundle lmao. Maybe you should have built an armor item instead of a BotRK second item yeah? Ffs lookat the gold difference. The enemy Trundle literally has DOUBLE as much gld as the highest gold value on your team. He's legit 3-4 levels ahead of your own team. The guy has 4 full items while you have 1 item + components for a second kek

But yeah, Lethality Trundle is OBVIOUSLY just busted right? We'll jut ignore the fact that he was fed 12 kills before finishing a single Lethality item.

Śhunpo1 votes

Lethality is a laughable stat. in terms of balance. I honestly hope they revert it back to armour pen.

Elkington VI1 votes

That build sounds terrible in all honesty.

Mysticman891 votes

I've played full AD trundle in ARAM before when we were all AP otherwise, and it's actually awful since only his Q has an AD ratio and it's not even good.

Much better served with a proper tank build and go for titantic and/or triforce. If one wants to be completely silly, on-hit trundle is probably both more fun and more effective than AD/lethality trundle which was super lackluster.

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