@reds Can we at least get confirmation that Nidalee's invisible spears aren't "a feature not a bug"?

Shadow Gilgamesh··23 votes·1,286 views

I've seen threads about Nidalee's now infamous invisible spears rise to the top then fall away on this board over the last week, asking for nid to be disabled, there to be a notice posted, hot fixes, etc.

I'm gonna shoot way lower, can we at least get confirmation that you guys KNOW about it, and that it's something that should get fixed at some point?

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67chrome9 votes

I'm gonna shoot way lower, can we at least get confirmation that you guys KNOW about it, and that it's something that should get fixed at some point?

As someone who has been around since Poppy's release:

Nidalee has always had the invisible spear bug. She's had that for about 5 years, it isn't a recent thing.

Riot's also confidently proclaimed they've fixed said bug in ~3 separate patches since then from what I can recall.

I'm not sure they can remove it, it's probably something like the Death Recap bugs or Shen Ult bug.

BlackSunNocturne1 votes

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As someone who has been around since Poppy's release:

Nidalee has always had the invisible spear bug. She's had that for about 5 years, it isn't a recent thing.

Riot's also confidently proclaimed they've fixed said bug in ~3 separate patches since then from what I can recall.

I'm not sure they can remove it, it's probably something like the Death Recap bugs or Shen Ult bug.

But they fixed Shen's ult bug.

qetzel8 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/ioRukE5W-invisible-mundo-cleavers?comment=0000

Yup. This isn't the only post they have acknowledging it. Question: Do you want them to acknowledge a bug or problem at the first sign of it or every minute of every hour of every day thereafter. If you miss the initial acknowledgement, is it right for you to demand future acknowledgement?

MrBuffington1 votes

I feel like Riot should make a habit of pinning these sorts of things; I can never refer people to the actual comments cause I suck at the search function, lol

qetzel1 votes

There are actually a large number of Riot comments, even if you don't include Reddit and Rioters just being players for a few minutes. You can't pin them all.

MrBuffington1 votes

I was just talking about the ones that discuss these common complaints. Not sure if people would actually read them before making a rage thread, though...

Crate of Cobras4 votes

I haven't seen any invisible skillshots playing LoL...

Ohhhhh

Celeste Benal2 votes

Last night I finally got to experience Nidalee's new skill: Invisible Spear of Long Range Cheesery. Was sitting in mid-lane within range from the jungle when "Chunk!" -30% life. Thought maybe I saw some sort of particle somewhere near the trees before it hit. Good times.

Åron2 votes

There are COUNTLESS threads about this on boards. If riot has ever responded to one, let me know because I haven't seen it. We all get that it's a bug, and I don't think making yet another "Nidalee's broken" thread is going to help.

Leaf of the lake1 votes

I'm not sure if it's gotten worse recently or what, but it happens consistently. I was originally under the impression that it was an inconsistent bug, that sometimes triggered and sometimes didn't, but I've noticed it can be replicated consistently after playing against her more. Now, there's the question of whether this is playing off of an intended mechanic or if a similar bug is also affecting other champs, because something similar happens with abilities such as nunu's or anivia's ults (if you can't see the champ, you can't see the ult). If it's intended, that's one thing. If it's not, it's a mechanic affecting many champs that needs to be fixed.

Oleandervine1 votes

It would make absolutely no sense for it to be intentional for a character hidden in the Fog of War to have invisible powers. Despite the fact that this game is fantasy, it does tend to run on modern physics in that there is no way that a bird casting a massive blizzard from the shadows would cause you to somehow never see the blizzard. This issue with Nidalee is most likely not a fault of Nidalee's, but more likely a fault with how the Fog of War is wrongly causing things to render as if they were still in the Fog of War. While I haven't experienced the Nidalee invisible spear chuckery yet, I have experienced a similar thing happen when playing against a LeBlanc who's entire rotation went invisible when she attacked from the shadows. It was like "Boom! I'm dead" and then suddenly LeBlanc is beside me. So given that Nidalee isn't the only trigger of this issue, this would be a much, much larger scale problem to deal with that would require more than just tweaks to Nidalee.

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

It's not the shadows though, some games every single spear is invisible and they stay that way for the whole game. It's not one specific skin either, the boards blamed Headhunter at one point but I just saw it happen on WK and I've seen it not happen on HH.

Sammystorm1 votes

Its not just nidalee. It is all champions that have skill shots. However it is most noticeable on nidalee because of the range of her spears. Riot has made the bug substantially better. They have also claimed to fixed it on several different occasions. Throwing a fit about the bug doesn't really solve anything when the bug is obviously hard to fix and already well known by Riot.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

a secret passive, sometimes nid throws spears so stealthy that you cannot even see them!

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

I just had to put up with those invisible spears through a 57 minute game lol... even without them I'm astounded that she's allowed to be as strong as she is with an obnoxious kit, but this is just absurd.

I don't play her so I can't cite any specific problem, but every game she gets through banning, she ends up huge. Even when you counterjungle her, kill her multiple times, win the lanes and control dragon, she can murder whoever she wants or just pelt the team with invisible spears, while healing her team and stealing objectives with an execute. I'm not one to complain about specific champs (this sort of thing is what bans are for) but I'm never gonna understand why they let Nida of all people be this powerful. Sure, tanks and RG are a thing, but using that amount of resources on a jungler that's just gonna jump away and heal herself means you probably lose the teamfight.

Solidair31 votes

Riot has already stated that it is a bug. She hasn't been disabled because it affects such a small number of players. They have not yet found out g ow to reproduce the bug, but they a are actively working on finding a fix.

It's not a feature, it's a bug. A v ery rare, only experienced by a few bug.

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