"we're going to add a meaningful weakness to lee sin just as soon as worlds is over"

Quepha··7 votes·855 views

you were making a band-aid nerf to lee sin remember when you made band-aid nerfs to olaf or evelynn that completely dumpstered them? multiple times? why don't you just dumpster lee sin for a while until you remember that you're supposed to make him into a champion that players don't mind playing against? something with weaknesses that matter and are identifiable, not "he sortof but not really falls off in the late game, but he's actually still fine then just comparatively crap because his early game is off-the-charts godly"

maybe he should be a mobile assassin and duelist and should lose his slow and reduce the distance on his knockback maybe he should be a team support and should lose his %hp execute and generally high burst damage maybe he should be a strong initiator and play maker and should lose his as steroid and have his energy costs increased so he has to make choices about his abilities and not cast them as often

or maybe he can just keep making many junglers obsolete and having players who don't pick him constantly think in the back of their heads that "if i actually bothered to learn lee sin i could do everything the champion i like does and more, maybe i should sell off some of the fun i have with the champion i like so i can play something that i know is capable of taking me farther"

11 Comments

eyes wide shut7 votes

oh look, another kid complaining about lee sin.

Wise Squirrel4 votes

oh look, another kid complaining about lee sin.

To be fair, nobody likes playing against Lee Sin.

eyes wide shut2 votes

to be fair, if you've ever played the fucking champion, you wouldn't mind it in the slightest. he has very glaring weaknesses that bronze kids don't seem to understand.

he's very easy to play against.

Quepha2 votes

he has very glaring weaknesses

liiiiike?

eyes wide shut1 votes

the fact that you need lee sins weaknesses pointed out for you proves my point. take some time, and learn the game.

Quepha2 votes

the fact that you need lee sins weaknesses pointed out for you proves my point. take some time, and learn the game.

subtle dodge. even riot has admitted that lee sin has no easily identifiable weaknesses.

eyes wide shut1 votes

it wasn't a dodge, I'm just rather at a loss for words that someone who actively plays this game and has a brain seated on top of their shoulders can't identify where a champion is weak and where a champion is strong.

Quepha2 votes

it wasn't a dodge, I'm just rather at a loss for words that someone who actively plays this game and has a brain seated on top of their shoulders can't identify where a champion is weak and where a champion is strong.

including the people at riot?

SmokingPuffin1 votes

To be fair, nobody likes playing against Lee Sin.

I like playing against Lee. I think he's just a bit overtuned and needs some good, old-fashioned number nerfs. How about we go with 6% max health on Q2? Maybe a 150% bonus AD ratio on Q+Q?

This doesn't have to be rocket surgery.

disregardable3 votes

Prepare for "Bronze V"-ishness

I don't see what's wrong with Lee Sin. He's squishy AF.

Narasimha3 votes

Because in the end, it can't be justified. His low winrate and high pick rate mean a lot of people like to use him, but can't use him that well. And despite what you think, he IS still a high skill cap champ. There is a world of difference between an average Lee player and a damn good one.

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