Does anyone else think LB is op?

xxxMadLionxxx·Dec 19, 2015·12 votes·2,138 views

I took mf bot and the enemy had an LB supp. At lvl 7 she was 1 shotting me with only a and .

It did not take her 1 second to kill me.... even when I hard the first 2-3 attacks before she reacted.

And the part I think is funny is that you can't kill her without hard CC... otherwise she just dashes away.

Edit: Also, when you think of it, Lb has several layers of defense.

1....her dash 2....her second dash if needed 3....her snare 4....her passive stealth mode add confusion. not just the clone, but the fact that she disappears for 1 second makes it hard to hit her 5....her clones can act as a shield to skill shots. 6....her clones can leave you chasing a fake Lb. 7.... she can still flash (not just dash, but flash) back to her original cast location of the first dash. 8.... and finally she can flash (not just dash back) to the second cast location of her second dash.

26 Comments

Flyer BeastDec 19, 20156 votes

Well, What does Leblanc do? Burst you. Does she do it extremely well? Yes. What else does she do? NOTHING. She's just mobile burst.

ModKnightsKemplarDec 19, 20151 votes

This. On both ends.

On the one hand, this makes LB not op. She is useless against tanks (unless super fed), etc. But it also makes her incredibly frustrating for squishies. I don't think she's OP, but I will always hold a special place in my heart to hate her forever.

Flyer BeastDec 23, 20151 votes

Yeah. She's annoying for a squishy to deal with.

Hayaishi2Dec 19, 20152 votes

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Well, What does do? Burst you. Does she do it extremely well? Yes. What else does she do? NOTHING. She's just mobile burst.

Yeah mobile burst, that's a thing to take lightly.

Flyer BeastDec 23, 20151 votes

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Yeah mobile burst, that's a thing to take lightly.

Yeah no denying her mobile burst is really strong, but just two strengths.

AyRe CoNteMpTDec 19, 20154 votes

to answer your question: no

TalllDec 19, 20153 votes

No; She's just extremely hard to lock down and can be quite annoying. Try using champions like Amumu Malphite or others that have high lock down abilitys

xxxMadLionxxxDec 19, 20153 votes

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No; She's just extremely hard to lock down and can be quite annoying. Try using champions like or others that have high lock down abilitys

But that my point tho.....Unless I have hard cc, or someone snars/stuns her..... You can't kill her unless she uses her skills on you and you are still alive.

She also doesn't even have a high skill cap. All she has to do is dash and q q/r, and then back to safety.

Atleast rengar has no safe options when he goes in, but lb has 2.

She has her dash back and her stealth/clone passive. Not to mention the clone can body block skill shots

ZLbSwAR23IDec 19, 20155 votes

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But that my point tho.....Unless I have hard cc, or someone snars/stuns her..... You can't kill her unless she uses her skills on you and you are still alive.

As is the way for every champion in this game.

You've had a bad game against LB. Learn from it. She isn't overpowered at all and this is coming from someone who has never played as her, but plays against her often.

Mech0pDec 19, 20151 votes

What he said but it can be difficult to learn to play against certain champs and take some time.... One of the best ways i've learned their weaknesses so that I can play better against them is to actually play and learn them... I did this with shaco because I'm a bronzie, but have yet to figure how to shut a good shaco down without the help of my team warding.

TalllDec 19, 20151 votes

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But that my point tho.....Unless I have hard cc, or someone snars/stuns her..... You can't kill her unless she uses her skills on you and you are still alive.

She also doesn't even have a high skill cap. All she has to do is dash and q q/r, and then back to safety.

Atleast rengar has no safe options when he goes in, but lb has 2.

She has her dash back and her stealth/clone passive. Not to mention the clone can body block skill shots

Yeah that is kinda how she goes. High cc counters her not too big of a deal you just gotta make sure to either ban her or have good CC

Solidair3Dec 20, 20152 votes

Welcome to assassins. Either they burst you and you die or they fail and they die.

Remlap1223Dec 20, 20151 votes

Counterpick =/= counterplay.

shyvDec 20, 20152 votes

she's squishy as hell, pick a support that has point and click cc

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Chuck CharlesDec 20, 20152 votes

no, Leblanc is not in any way OP.

she is an assassin designed to do exactly what she did to you. explode you.

play around that. for one, in order for to one shot you, she has to literally land her whole combo if those are the only items she has. if she is walking up to you for Q, then why are you letting her do that. respect her damage.

number two, Leblanc is honestly incredibly squishy. once she does her combo, even if she blinks back ,her cooldowns are pretty damn long and you can just chunk her. as a support this is harder of course, but you forget t hat unless she lands root, she isn't going to have much pressure. she also has zero prescence when those abilities are on cooldown. so just straight up run at enemy adc with your support who has all his cooldowns.

I mean, Leblanc does a butt ton of damage, but so do a lot of champs. that doesn't make them OP.

Kal Vas FlamDec 20, 20151 votes

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I mean, Leblanc does a butt ton of damage, but so do a lot of champs. that doesn't make them OP.

Except those other champs can't immediately dash back into the fog of war without using flash before anyone can even react.

alasarcherDec 19, 20151 votes

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I took mf bot and the enemy had an LB supp. At lvl 7 she was 1 shotting me with only a and .

It did not take her 1 second to kill me.... even when I hard the first 2-3 attacks before she reacted.

And the part I think is funny is that you can't kill her without hard CC... otherwise she just dashes away

Change your magic penetration runes for magic resistance runes.

CindikleDec 20, 20151 votes

OP? Not at all.

Broken? Probably.

If we're going to change her for balance. It wont be done with number changes. Although her Q does do too much base damage IMO.

What level was she when you were 7? It sounds like she snowballed. Even with only two items. Mages tend to scale best with levels. It's why you never see them in duo lanes even if the ADC can solo lane fine.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20151 votes

Ahri mains don't want nerf to Leblanc.

Remlap1223Dec 20, 20151 votes

She's not "OP" anymore, but that's irrelevant because she's still one of the most cancerous champions to face in this game. The only ones that are more infuriating to play against are Shaco and Kalista.

She's deliberately being kept in the dumpster because she does an insane amount of burst damage once she levels her basic abilities, and her combo has zero counterplay on about 90% of the champions she faces in mid lane. You either counterpick her, or you get obliterated in lane. There's no in between.

It used to be worse, believe it or not. That bitch could jump like a jackrabbit while STUNNING your ass. Yeah, she could silence you, root you, and burst you down while bouncing back to her original location like nothing happened.

Solidair3Dec 20, 20151 votes

No. She may stomp me in lane but I fuck her up in teamfights. She has 0 options past laning other than making picks, but if you are out of position when LB is about, then good luck.

MunchCrunchLunchDec 20, 20151 votes

oh. she was op before the buffs she got. she one shotted two. me. and my team mate. under the tower. with just a item 3165

Lintu PuckDec 20, 20151 votes

and then she brings Thunderlord's Decree and poof, your life bar disappears just like she said.

Darth WestDec 20, 20151 votes

Um.. are you serious? Out of all champions you wanna nerf the champion that has already received the nerf hammer over at least 5 times? And the AP champions already have it rough as it is..

Trying playing a champion that can lock her down as others suggested. I personally go Malphite JG, to absolutely destroy her mid-late game.

This is what I personally do when I play Mal, when she blinks to get my team mate, I look at her previous spot before she blinked and auto shot my Q (my rock) when her clone pops out, so I can get the real one. It's so easy to counter this woman that I find it humorous you made this thread.

I play Leblanc here and there, so I know how to counter her pretty well, you should give it a try, playing against a champion you have a hard time with makes it much easier once you know everything about her, so YOU can understand and counter her and know when to go in.

That's all I need to say.

It Is I EmotoDec 20, 20151 votes

She's an early game threat, but late game she becomes more and more useless if she can't get herself fed. A leblanc missing bursty items is probably the worst thing ever. Just get a item 3102 and she looses a portion of her burst if she engages at you with your spellshield on.

MimiLOLOct 19, 20161 votes

I'm an LB main and tbh we don't use our w to run away, we usually use it with our q. I'll give you some advice: if you get that yellow thing on top of you, RUN AWAY. That ability causes damage but if LB e's or w's u, it does MORE damage. I think it's only there for 3-4 seconds but, from personal experience, if she q's then dashes to you and then ults, you're dead (early game). As for late game, LB is pretty much useless.