With the Mage Update changing Zhonya's, I think Seeker's Armguard should be reconsidered.

JavelinJoe··4 votes·498 views

The item does not fully fit the build anymore. You actually lose 10+25 potential AP by completing Zhonya's (95 -> 70 instead of 95->100), and gain 10% CDR from nowhere.


Idea 1 (mana regen and is a remaking of the full item):

  1. remove the current passive and replace it with UNIQUE Passive: +10% Cooldown Reduction (must be a unique passive since it would be too easy to stack CDR then).
  2. lower the AP to either 0 or 10 at most (so you dont lose AP when Zhonya's is completed).
  3. give it 50% mana regen since it is neither offensive or team oriented (since it does not fit comfortably into either of mana classes proposed, giving it a small amount of mana regen seems fair).
  4. keep armor at 30 (maybe bump to 35 or 40 to compensate the removal of the passive).
  5. give it an active similar to item 3222 where on use (self cast only), removes all stuns, taunts, roots, snares, fears, silences, and slows on the champion (no healing though) with a 90 second cooldown.
  6. change Seeker's Armguard's build path to be item 1029 item 1029 item 3114 + 50 gold = 1200 gold (same price).
  7. Zhonya's Hourglass' build path will be left the same, but the item's stats will include some small amount of mana regen (passive's on the Seeker's Armguard will be swapped out for the usual Zhonya's Hourglass passive and the 10% CDR passive will become a base stat).

Idea 2 (flat mana and is more removal/replacement than rework):

  1. remove seeker's from the game.
  2. change Zhonya's Hourglass build path to be item 1058 + item 3024 +750 gold = 3000 gold total (proposed cost).
  3. add 300 - 400 mana to Zhonya's Hourglass' stats.

7 Comments

PentaJuke1 votes

sounds legit.

Leeerzeichen1 votes

I would remove all ap from seekers and add the stasis active on a higher cd.

JavelinJoe1 votes

nah because then finishing to zhonya's would be less of a priority and the passive is what makes it op. So for 1200 gold you have the full build's desired active is not balanced

Leeerzeichen1 votes

Look at qss and hexdrinker. Both items provide their powerful passiv/active for 1300 gold.

JavelinJoe1 votes

yes but not to its fullest, QSS only has the debuff removal and not the movement speed. hexdrinker lacks the second passive. This is why in my first suggestion I limited what it could be used with, so as not to outshine the full item.

Leeerzeichen1 votes

That's why my suggestion included a higher CD (120-180) for the 1300 gold with compared to the standard cd of 90s

Nekusen1 votes

the only thing item 3191 needs is being able to be built into multiple items.

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