Can we buff Warmog's passive a little? (Every 500 HP shorter CD)

Dreadlocks··1 votes·427 views

Grants WARMOG'S HEART if you have at least 3000 maximum health. UNIQUE – WARMOG'S HEART: Regenerate 「 1.5% maximum health every half-second 」if damage has not been taken in the last 8 seconds.

I feel like item 3053 currently outshines item 3083 when in need of some health to survive burst. This use to be a good reason to build item 3083 in the past when it had 1000 HP but now not as much.

I'm not saying item 3083 is bad, but i do find its niche to be extremely small and i think a tad buff to its passive could help with that.

  • 3000 HP = 8s CD
  • 3500 HP = 7.5s CD
  • 4000 HP = 7s CD
  • 4500 HP = 6.5s CD
  • 5000 HP = 6s CD

It might look too strong on paper, and hell idk maybe it is. I think this is a good change (or at least in the right direction) for the item and i would even be willing to lose some HP on the item if it meant this change go through.

Currently Garen has a very similar passive:

INNATE: Garen regenerates 「 0.2 / 0.4 / 1% max. health every half-second 」 if he has not taken non-minion damage in the last 9 / 6 / 4 seconds.

His scales with levels all the way down to 4 seconds just at a slightly slower rate. I'm not saying every fighter/tank should have a Garen passive. 4 Seconds is pretty low, but i think 6 seconds would be fairly hard to obtain with Warmogs needing 5000 HP likely losing out on a lot of resistances.

The idea of fighting and getting out regenerating up with Warmogs is really cool and i've always loved the idea since they added this passive, i just find it extremely hard to utilize in the later stages of the game. Unless you fight then go split push, u are probably not going to get use of this passive.

8 Comments

ff4sk2 votes

Tanks are already strong enough. Why buff them even more? might as well delete all the other champions and none tank items and name this game league of tanks.

Dreadlocks1 votes

And ADCs are not? I'm not saying this change should happen to make tanks as a whole stronger.. I'm saying as an item to league i think it needs to be more appealing for what it does. I wouldn't want them to remove another cool item just because they didn't modify it.

ff4sk1 votes

It's a tank item, for tank champions who build health, Adc don't build health, mages rarely build health, same with junglers, so who would profit?

And ADC are no where near as strong as tanks at the moment. And ADC can dish out damage but a tank can dish out damage, be super tanky, and have cc. Giving them CDR would break them even more.

Dreadlocks1 votes

They already buy CDR? And yeah Tanks are suppose to be durable with CC

ff4sk1 votes

well see here, since you're already tanky and have cc it makes no sense to give you a crapload of damage along with CDR giving you more cc. It isn't fair, you can't have everything. Tanks are already broken to the point where they can burst anybody down while being tanky so why make them even more broken?

"b-b-but ADC" like i said, ADC deal damage while being mobile but they suffer by being squishy and having barely any cc on them.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Its like you are under the assumption that tanks can burst at the same level as say a leblanc or talon.. Therefore we will never see eye to eye because your logic is highly flawed.

ff4sk1 votes

The fact they can burst at all is the problem.

Those other champions deal damage because they BUILD AP/damage items. Tanks can get away with building 4 tank items and only 2 damage items yet deal craploads of damage. champions like voli with damage buff abilities don't even need damage items to deal damage.

The fact you're asking for an indirect buff to tanks despite them already being overpowered enough makes me think you are either trolling, are a tank main and pretending to be stupid, or you really are this stupid.

either way this discussion is over.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I'm actually none of the things you listed.. I main Rengar. I've felt that warmogs has needed this change since season 4 when i started. I came from Dota 2 where regeneration is actually a noticeable investment. Me asking for the 1 League item thats suppose to provide regeneration is neither stupid troll or have to do with me maining a tank. It wouldn't matter what the item was the fact of the matter is i'd rather the item do what its intended to do rather than be out-classed/shined by a new item that was recently introduced to the game.

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