I shouldnt lose a game in 10 minutes because my jungler is worse than the other, this is a team game not a 1v1 btw junglers with 8 other spectators.
The Jungle role needs its impact lowered to match the other roles.
Rewt3 votes
and look at your map
Rexxiee1 votes
Wish i could play on the same patch as you, back when you could actually buy green wards to protect yourself from being camped by a jungler.
All we have currently is a shitty 60s ward that's on a 3 minute CD, the jungler either pinks it or sweeps it (or it just expires really) and now you're boned for 2~3 minutes.
Rewt2 votesand while you dont have vision you dont push. Simple.
Watch your map. if you dont have recent vision of the jungler and no wards. dont fight. play safe. When the enemy jungler shows in another lane then you can fight. its simple. Also you can buy Control wards while your trinket is down.
Jungle is honestly shit now as a carry role. they are essentially a roaming support unless you just int feed them kills by pushing up without vision constantly.
Rexxiee1 votesand while you dont have vision you dont push. Simple.
Watch your map. if you dont have recent vision of the jungler and no wards. dont fight. play safe. When the enemy jungler shows in another lane then you can fight. its simple. Also you can buy Control wards while your trinket is down.
Jungle is honestly shit now as a carry role. they are essentially a roaming support unless you just int feed them kills by pushing up without vision constantly.
So basically never play the laning phase? LOL.
"jungle is shit at carry role" i dont even need to look you up to know you're either bronze or silver by that alone, jungle is the easiest role to gain elo with because you can single handedly decide games very early on.
Rewt1 votesJungle works like support. getting his lanes ahead. Jungle thanks to XP changes doesnt get ahead on his own by farming. its literally by helping the team. now you CAN get ahead on jungle but the jungle itself is no longer a carry role. Especially at high elo. Jungle is in one of its worst spots for individual carrying that it has been for a very long time.
You dont get as much gold as the laners. you fall behind in XP unless you play against morons who push without wards and dont look at their map. You are literally a roaming support.
Also 1. you obviously dont play jungle and dont understand it in the slightest. and 2. dont you even TRY and make the ranked argument when you dont play ranked yourself.
In low Elo where players have no idea what they are doing jungle seems oppressive, but once you play against players who actually have brains jungle becomes significantly more difficult. the players ward, they are always looking at their map. They keep as good of tabs on you as possible and are able to avoid a lot of ganks.
In low elo you can just walk into someones lane and gank them. But in high elo they do a lot of deep warding and can often see you coming. Watch any challenger stream and you will see what junglers face. most of the map is lit up like a Christmas tree and it forces a jungler to be very creative in his ganks.
MagicFlyingLlama2 votesLol what.
rtbf2216514121 votesPosting on an alt so we can't see how much you didn't ward?
Winters Dawn1 votesThis doesn't make sense. If their jungler is better than yours ya they have a higher chance of winning. Same if their adc is better than yours they still have a higher chance of winning. Ward and place safe. If you get ganked its your fault