So, there are effectively no options for a tank to build against an on-hit Conqueror champ

The Ecdysiast··4 votes·867 views

Edit: It seems I was mistaken on the way AS reduction works for these items. But that actually means the problem is worse than I first stated. So, despite the fact Thornmail and Frozen Heart reduce total AS, it still makes no difference even if you stack them.

Thornmail needs to return damage scaling with the amount the enemy is dealing to you. It's already only 70% gold efficient. There's no reason it should also be worthless at its job. Even the grievous wounds passive means little considering the fact only Maokai has healing to contest their built-in lifesteal or bork, and when you engage you aren't applying it to anyone unless they choose to attack you.

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EndlessSorcerer3 votes

You seem to be operating under a misunderstanding regarding how attack speed slows work.

Attack speed slows are applied to total attack speed, not base attack speed.

As such, a 15% attack speed slow will require significantly more than 15% bonus attack speed to negate.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Which doesn't counter my point, but rather strengthens it. It's even worse, since that means even with both those items it still made no difference.

AirKingNeo1 votes

uhh thornmail does apply twice every other hit vs rageblade

The Ecdysiast1 votes

I meant that it should retain that if they increase the damage. Knowing Riot, they'd probably remove that as "compensation"

Ayanami3rd1 votes

Conqueror is just a shitty rune made so that Hashinshin shuts the hell up. Thanks Riot, practicing tank toplaners for about a year now is useless.

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