If plants are going to stay, blasting cone will need better animation

Zero Skill Tank·Nov 12, 2016·89 votes·3,404 views

I'm not one of plant-haters, I'm not sure about them, but pretty much willing to give them a chance.

But if they are going to stay, in-flight champions can't be left looking that silly. Walking animation mid-air looks really bad on most champions.

I get that making animations for all champions would take a lot of resources, but that again it could be re-used to make all the push-backs in the game look smoother, like Gragas barrel or so.

TL;DR

Rito pls

39 Comments

MarshbouyNov 12, 201636 votes

Zac I see no issue?

Velzard of KozNov 12, 20168 votes

Yeah lol I've just meant to post him there. I don't own him but saw him in few ARAM games just jumping on us from fog of war with animation of him walking in air. Hard to take that seriously.

MarshbouyNov 13, 20166 votes

I've seen one where he flops around like a dead fish in mid air. Boy is zac funny or what?

RevaliNov 13, 20165 votes

Zac Everyone's a critic.

morris1Nov 12, 201613 votes

Considering they had the resources to do animations for capturing points on Dominion they can definitely take their time to make knockbacks look smoother on all champions.

Zero Skill TankNov 12, 20161 votes

I hope so.

rtbf225618241Nov 12, 20162 votes

Well Dominion was considered a permanent game mode with objectives that take about 5 seconds to capture so..yeah no choice there really.

Hellen KellerNov 12, 20169 votes

Dominion Permanent

kek

rtbf225618241Nov 12, 201617 votes

was

Reading is a valuable skill, young Pikachu.

Hellen KellerNov 13, 20168 votes

You misunderstood me, I meant that its funny how things go from permanent to not. My writing is worse than my reading

rtbf225618241Nov 13, 20161 votes

Fair enough.

SociopathFriendNov 13, 20161 votes

Bear in mind, the "Capture beams" look like something someone just starting in animation could do. We have basic tools now that can make that effect and better too.

PennsNov 12, 20162 votes

Id be more worried about a tank fest meta coming back than about plants tbh lel

Hrd2H1tNov 12, 201612 votes

is tank meta really a bad thing, though? it promotes teamwork and good team composition as opposed to, for example, marksmen meta which promotes getting one lane hella fed

PennsNov 12, 20163 votes

As someone that pretty much exclusively plays assassins, hell yeah lol. But a "meta" like the Iceborn/Sunfire/Grasp on everything is bad in general imo.

The GovernerNov 12, 20167 votes

Tank meta doesn't promote teamwork. It only promotes brawling among tanks, which is very uninteractive and disables many champions in the game. It does nothing to fix the game and is never the best meta to begin with.

The best meta is every single class being viable and prominent under different specific circumstances, not tank meta or marksman meta or mage meta or assassin meta.

President Swa1nNov 12, 20161 votes

Will such a meta ever be possible?

Tis a nice dayNov 13, 20162 votes

5 AD.

VisthaNov 12, 20162 votes

They are going to be removed the next season anyway. Why bother?

KnalxzNov 12, 20162 votes

I said the samething about Poppy's ultimate. It looks like they just skitdaddle away in the sky.

Live2LetDieNov 12, 20161 votes

I agree with this. My xin looks like he is doing the running man mid air and not actually flying like he is.

Spice POWAHNov 13, 20163 votes

you think xin looks ridiculous? try Cassiopeia...

CatastropNov 13, 20162 votes

I see your Cass, and raise you a Lissandra.

TeCoolMageNov 13, 20162 votes

Anivia says hello ;)

theArtifactsNov 12, 20161 votes

I think it looks hilarious, just too slow.

DraqoneNov 12, 20161 votes

Most champions already have proper animations or poses! Riot can simply reuse the animations that are used when champions are sprinting most of them look like a champion is dashing/flying anyway!

ZeranaNov 13, 20161 votes

I think we need to focus on the direction blast mechanic, it goes off when you auto attack it instead of just going off when you walk in a general direction on it, I get that it was built that way so you could save them for later, but sometimes due to this mechanic you blast in a completely different direction than what you wanted.

EpicanianNov 13, 20164 votes

you do realize it blasts you in the opposite direction of the way you are facing when you auto attack it? it's really easy to aim, you just turn your back to where you want to go. FURTHERMORE, they give you a nice red indicator of where you will land when you mouse over the plant. If it exploded when you walked over it, you would constantly accidentally blast yourself back when trying to walk past it, or accidentally blow your allies into the enemy team. This system is much, much better.

ZeranaNov 13, 20161 votes

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you do realize it blasts you in the opposite direction of the way you are facing when you auto attack it? it's really easy to aim, you just turn your back to where you want to go. FURTHERMORE, they give you a nice red indicator of where you will land when you mouse over the plant. If it exploded when you walked over it, you would constantly accidentally blast yourself back when trying to walk past it, or accidentally blow your allies into the enemy team. This system is much, much better.

Yeah but in the heat of the moment you're not gonna aim very well, It should just blast you in the direction of you mouse.

ReposerNov 13, 20162 votes

No, it's a skill thing, it's meant to be something you learn how to work around, instead of being extremely easy to use.

It requires you to position in a way where the enemy is less confused about where you may have gone, instead of you just choosing one random direction they may have to guess if you were in Fog for a split second, even if you could only have feasibly went to a certain side of the cone.

Tis a nice dayNov 13, 20161 votes

There's going to be a good deal of unintentional blasting if they trigger automatically from proximity.

EpicanianNov 13, 20161 votes

I agree it looks so stupid and clunky

MunchCrunchLunchNov 13, 20161 votes

i think its funny but the plants are a little buggy

xxxDogmanxxxNov 13, 20161 votes

Lol, you should see XinZhao flying because of the blasting cone. He looks like he's moonwalking in midair while flailing his spear.

Captain AishiNov 13, 20161 votes

don't change the actual animation, but just rotate the 3d models head over heels as if they were doing a cartwheel in midair :P

YαmiNov 13, 20161 votes

I'm ok with the plant that gives you vision and the one which gives you health (i don't even know the names).. but about the "blast cone" i'm confused. i would like riot to remove blast cone honestly.

WinTheWarOnPantsNov 13, 20161 votes

i agree with OP. we should remove all the plants.

NeverLostNov 17, 20161 votes

Plants are fine. They actually feel like a pretty natural addition. You just haven't adapted yet.

inplaneNov 13, 20161 votes

To be fair, trying to get smooth knockback animations for every champ is going to be hard. Especially when this game doesn't work on any ragdoll physics. A game like Overwatch for example can do that because the models are easily manipulated through ragdoll physics. It's still going to look awkward when a champ gets pushed away because it would look like they're being pushed the complete opposite direction due to potentially only having one knockback animation.