I'm always reminded of how much i hate these champions.

Zerenza·Oct 8, 2019·1 votes·1,375 views

Whenever i take a break, like 2 weeks to a Month and don't play league of legends. I'm reminded when i come back of these champions.

Yasuo
Sylas
Akali.

Hyper Mobile, Tankier in lane than they should be, harder to hit than the broad side of a barn if i were a storm trooper. Every. Single. Time. I'm reminded of how much i hate them, why does yasuo have a passive shield? Why does he have straight up the strongest non-ultimate ability in the game? Why? Who decided that was a good idea? Why has no one changed it? Why does akali have a slow on her Q? Why? She doesn't need it but it's there, why does sylas have a magic shield when his base tank stats are plenty good enough? Why? Why do all of these champions have such high HP Scaling, High Base Tank Stats while also being hard to hit? Why?

I don't get it and i'm constantly reminded of why i hate them all so much.

8 Comments

KeiagaOct 8, 20191 votes

Sylas is LITERALLY the absolute worse winrate champion in the entire game at 42%. Akali is 5th worst. How are you still complaining about them lmfao

JustDonnyyOct 8, 20191 votes

Sylas and Akali don't really have great winrates, yes their annoying champions, but can easily be outplayed and countered. Yasuo on the other hand, is my personal perma-ban so I don't play against him :)

JamareeOct 8, 20191 votes

None of those champions are tanky? o_O

ZerenzaOct 8, 20191 votes

Sylas- 585 HP, 32 Armor, 36 MR at level 1 with very good Per-Level Growth. Yasuo- 523 HP, 30 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with Fair Growth. Akali- 575 HP, 23 Armor, 37 MR at level 1 with great growth.

Neeko- 540 HP, 21 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with awful Growth. Syndra- 523 HP, 24.7 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with awful Growth. Zoe- 560 HP, 20.8 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with awful growth.

What i'm getting at when i meant "Base Tank Stat's" is their base stats are too high. What's more, most champion in mid-lane with 0 mobility and less damage than them have lower base tank stats. But here are Yasuo and Sylas with great base-tank stats, plenty of mobility and Shields(Yasuo has his passive AND windwall, the strongest non-ultimate ability in the game.) even though they definitely don't need it because they can just dash up to most of those champions i listed and outright kill them just because they're tankier and many mages don't have a way to get away from them.

Like i get that a lot of Melee champions in the Mid-Lane need fair base-tank stats but those champions like Katarina, Talon and Fizz don't have Shields built into their kit, and to be fair to Yasuo he does have the lowest HP here buuut that doesn't really matter when he has a passive shield and windwall(Stupid strong ability.)

JamareeOct 8, 20191 votes

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Sylas- 585 HP, 32 Armor, 36 MR at level 1 with very good Per-Level Growth. Yasuo- 523 HP, 30 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with Fair Growth. Akali- 575 HP, 23 Armor, 37 MR at level 1 with great growth.

Neeko- 540 HP, 21 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with awful Growth. Syndra- 523 HP, 24.7 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with awful Growth. Zoe- 560 HP, 20.8 Armor, 30 MR at level 1 with awful growth.

Melee and close range champions having more health the mages and long range casters doesn't mean they are tanky, of course they are going to have more HP, they have to risk more since they have to be close range.

What i'm getting at when i meant "Base Tank Stat's" is their base stats are too high. What's more, most champion in mid-lane with 0 mobility and less damage than them have lower base tank stats. But here are Yasuo and Sylas with great base-tank stats, plenty of mobility and Shields(Yasuo has his passive AND windwall, the strongest non-ultimate ability in the game.) even though they definitely don't need it because they can just dash up to most of those champions i listed and outright kill them just because they're tankier and many mages don't have a way to get away from them.

I like the fact you utterly ignored the melee vs ranged thing.

ZerenzaOct 8, 20191 votes

I didn't ignore it though? They have mobility, meaning that they have the ability to Dodge and Engage from far outside what their range is. Illaoi is Melee, but all of her skills and abilities make her Mid-Range and allow her to bully people with less range than her. Yasuo has minimum 7 dashes in lane, a passive shield and his windwall, he has plenty of ways to circumvent the "Risk" he would normally have to take from Poke damage due to him being melee. Sylas is the same, he has plenty of gap-close, a Magic Damage shield and very high base tank stats when in reality he doesn't need them because they reduce the risk he has to take by a very high margin.

JamareeOct 9, 20191 votes

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I didn't ignore it though? They have mobility, meaning that they have the ability to Dodge and Engage from far outside what their range is.

Except that isn’t true at all? They have the ability to get in an engage on the short range champions sure, but a Sylas isn’t going to do the damage a Syndra can when at long range, he has to put himself mid to close range to do his damage, as does Akali and Yasuo.

Or are you saying that they should have to put themselves in harm’s way to do damage while also being squishy?

Yasuo has minimum 7 dashes in lane, a passive shield and his windwall, he has plenty of ways to circumvent the "Risk" he would normally have to take from Poke damage due to him being melee. Sylas is the same, he has plenty of gap-close, a Magic Damage shield and very high base tank stats when in reality he doesn't need them because they reduce the risk he has to take by a very high margin.

Again not true, there is a reason why Akali and Sylas win rates are among the worst in the game and I’m fairly certain that all the champions you mentioned have higher win rates then Yasuo too.

The point is yes, if you are melee, you are going to have better base stats then ranged champions because you need the better stats because you are putting yourself at a risk ranges champions aren’t.

ZerenzaOct 9, 20191 votes

And what i keep telling you is there is less risk when you have Mobility along with Shields and high Base Tank Stats. There's no reason to have ALL OF THEM, one is fine, talon has great base tank stats, but he also doesn't have a shield and lacks IN LANE MOBILITY meaning it is hard for him to dodge skill shots.

Melee don't need to have EVERY tool necessary to lane against Mages, one of the tools is fine, they don't need all of them. Emphasis on NEEEEED, will sylas be fine if he had lower base health, the answer is yes and i'd argue with lower base tank stats laning against him would be less of a pain because when you do land damage, it actually works so he could get buffed to make up for his terrible winrate. Akali, same thing, her health and base tank stats are too high, meaning that when you get damage on her it doesn't really matter and she has several ways of avoiding damage in her kit she doesn't need to have high Base HP and base resistance's, when you land damage on a hyper mobile champion, the damage should matter.