Teemo is the only champion that's never been taken out of the meta

Trash MammaI·Nov 18, 2015·1 votes·860 views

Top lane he's a pain to deal with great/safe splitpusher Mid lane he's tolerable but still good when it comes to setting up drag/baron objective control and roaming is not bad either Bot(Marksman) can usually duel anybody since he has his blind Bot(Support) easily helps adcs when trades because of his E and Q provides a ton of vision and control over drag as well as lane and easily prevents ganks Jungle not great, but completely viable with the right setup I won't call it lcs tier but it's still very usable

He can function in every role Works fine with almost any comp Provides a shit ton of utility as well as damage Offers near free drags/barons because of his ability to set the playing field to his liking

Easily one of the most useful champs in the game regardless of how many people who hate him. He should be used as a base ground for creating champions

15 Comments

VekknaNov 18, 20152 votes

Teemo's pretty garbage right now, which is sad since he was just getting back to a decent spot with the arm time revert.

Trash MammaINov 18, 20151 votes

Teemo's strong as fuck right now we must be playing a different game

VekknaNov 18, 20151 votes

His win rate is 32 out of 52 in top lane, and his overall performance is down 10 spots to 28th out of 52. On what planet is that "strong as fuck?"

Out of curiosity, I checked your profile to see what kind of experience you've been getting. Looks like 47% win rate in S5, which is even worse than average. It looks like you've played a total of 3 normals with him in pre-season, and all of them are support games.

All his damage items were nerfed in preseason, so are you just saying that the income and mastery changes are enough to make him a useful support pick? Cuz he got worse everywhere else. Jungle is borderline unclearable early, he has nearly no favorable matchups in top lane, and the dot mages going mid do what Teemo does at a longer range.

Trash MammaINov 19, 20151 votes

Winrates don't mean squat why do people even resort to that? You realize in order for a winrate to be measured people have to play said champion right? Also for that person playing it to even matter they have to have a sense in what they are doing, right?

Also i've only been playing him and dicking around recently I played him a ton in each season in multiple game modes. The info you get from searching someone up is nice and all if you want a quick peek-a-boo to talk bad about someone in champ select because they took your role but terrible if you want to see how they actually play. For all you know it could've been someone else playing on my acc.

Supports usually have vision priority since the rest of the team is all "need muh damages" his shrooms + wards allow him to single handedly grant vision on an entire side of the map something nobody else can do alone. That's more than valuable. A support needs to peel, granted you can't do it that amazingly but in a smart teemo knows how to use stealth to his advantage to get his enemy to all-in then show up and the tides. No marksman can win a duel with teemo there. His blind is too good.

As I said before, must be a different game. I've played him in multiple lanes multiple times in multiple seasons and never found him bad. Maybe I just went against bad players, as far as i've seen though he's far from bad. Sure, he could use a few buffs cause his early game damage got bad but his mid-late game is by far crazy.

His shrooms alone allow him to single handedly carry a game. Especially since most people are generally too stubborn to buy pinks/change to sweeper. I'm guessing you've never played a game where you had clear vision on EVERY and I mean EVERY single step the enemy jungler took and were able to constantly kill them/avoid their ganks. I have.

VekknaNov 19, 20151 votes

You're right, it is a different game since you last did well with him in season 3 and 4.

People aren't too stubborn to buy pinks when they are the only wards in the shop and everyone is buying them. Moreover, anyone can get vision of half the map with the new blue trinkets giving you a permanent ward every minute, and they can do it safer and with much larger vision radius.

It's not mathematically possible to shroom the enemy jungle for full vision with a 5 minute trap duration. Maybe at 40% cdr at level 16. But at that point if you have free reign to run around the enemy jungle without dying, you're already dominating the game.

I would normally agree that Teemo wrecks marksmen, but 5.22 gave them far better access to abilities that blind does not affect. In fact, the only ADC Teemo is particularly strong against is Vayne.

As for account-checking, I agree that a player's win rate doesn't mean everything. In your case, you're making a specific claim that Teemo is strong, and that should be supported by data. The overall data (not just yours) does not support your claim, so I check to see if you've had good results that would support your conclusion. You don't.

If I say "Zyra is an amazing support pick!" I get lots of shit from players because she's objectively not an amazing pick. But if you account-check me, my opinion makes more sense. In around 200 ranked games my win rate is 59%, far above average for Zyra support. That tells you something about what is informing my statement. I think she's good because I get good results.

You're just saying Teemo is awesome when the data say otherwise, your own S5 stats say otherwise, and you don't have any experience playing Teemo top or mid in 5.22. What it comes down to is that you're wrong. Be content to say "I like Teemo" (which is fine) without deceiving yourself into believing that he's actually good at the moment.

runedaraNov 19, 20151 votes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZvSRkRVeI This is pretty much how I feel about teemo.

My Sea CowNov 18, 20151 votes

Teemo is the devil. ..end of discussion

CoolKnightSTNov 18, 20151 votes

Their is a differents between viable, fun & lcs viable. Teemo's is pretty limitated in the viable scenario:

Top[Viable]: He's ok but shares many weaknesses:
- He's squishy, can easy be camped
- He has some good but also some terrible matchups. While it's hard to transfer the good matchups into a team advantage besides splitpushing
Mid[Viable]: Because a lot of mages has been nerfed he might have some better matchups in midlane. Still he litterly will be a sitting duck for AD casters
Jungle[Fun/Viable]: Can actualy work but it requires a lot of mec skill to pull off perfect clears. It got hurt pretty bad with the mushroom changes. However because a lot of jungle mages are nerfed this patch. He's still a decent option.
Support[Fun/Viable: It's fun & all. However you might be able to blind the target. It will not be enouge to stop an all-in on your adc. You litterly have to setup your shrooms in a defensive lane to stop that from happening. It can work, but in same situation that it can work you can just go full AP annie & litterly crush the game 10 times better than teemo.
Adc[Fun]: Don't just don't play it in your ranked games. Bronze exists for a reason. It can be a fun pick to have fun. But just don't do it if you really want to win that game.

Still one note: Maybe the item 3124 could make a viable hybrid teemo but & don't believe it's nearly as strong as a hybrid Ezreal Nidalee Jax

luckmalloryNov 18, 20151 votes

Teemo is fucking garbage anywhere. lol wut

Trash MammaINov 18, 20151 votes

You must be playing against garbage teemo's then

luckmalloryNov 18, 20151 votes

No, Teemo is just horrible, he contributes absolutely nothing to a team fight, has 0 forms of hard CC and does not have an ultimate that can be used in a team fight to help the team or do a ton of damage. Teemo has always been horrible and he gets stomped in lane by way to many people, especially top and mid. Also his range is so low as an ADC that later in the game he just gets outscaled to shit and gets raped in fights because he has to be insanely close to do damage.

Also you know what works better than a 1-2 second silence as a support? Literally any form of hard cc at all. There are at least 6 supports i can think of who can flat out stun a champion longer than teemo's blind. Also teemo gives nothing to his ADC, no heals, no shields, no ms boost. Literally nothing.

Teemo is ass and is my absolute favorite champion to play against because I know I will shred him in lane and team fights will be 5 v 4

Trash MammaINov 19, 20151 votes

Teemo's not suppose to teamfight, he's better at splitpushing and if it comes down to teamfighting then is better to just play as an assassin. He's suppose to set the playing field and your team is suppose to force the enemy to fight on it. He grants the team vision. He makes sure the carry isn't on a rampage.

I guess I can't persuade anybody though considering the downvotes. I remember though when I called lebitch a stupid champ that needed to be toned down, everyone downvoted me then she became fotm a few days later with 0 changes affecting her. Same with Riven. Same with Talon.

Boards have never agreed with me then I always turn out right but I always come back to gloat. Scout will rise. I will be back.