Buff Bard Please

Trash MammaI··10 votes·3,780 views

The Jinx on my team ran past 3 healing shrines chasing after the enemy Nami, running into a huge minion wave and being attacked by the enemy ezreal while I was helping with drag and she died. She told me i'm a useless support.

Please buff Bard he's terrible at helping ADC's win fights they shouldn't be in. He ult needs to heal allies hit as well plz Rito

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Mega Annie X6 votes

he is terrible. 20% ap ratio on abyssmal heal base with the longest cooldown heal in the game that can be considered a skill shot?

Holy hell.

But wait theres more. Stupidly long cooldown on skill shot slow that might stun with short range ON A NONMOBILE CHAMPION.

But wait theres more. Portals that give no exclusivity to your team and unless leveled first, move so slow, no gank will ever work from it.

Finally ultimate that is an aoe indiscriminate zhonyas with a cast delay so large, most spells you ABSOLJUTELY MUST DODGE will have already landed and killed everyone....

yeah. People will learn to just play with him.

Or maybe people simply don't want to carry a bard. He is literally worse then pre rework post nerf eve. The eve that riot personally said, "we understand she is unplayable right now. That was our point. We want her out of the game until we can remake her."

That eve. WAY BETTER then this bard.

AetherKingdom5 votes

Bard's power from just his ult outshines his other weaknesses.

Sona Ping3 votes

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The Jinx on my team did some stupid things that got himself killed and blamed me for it. This means that Bard is awful and needs buffs.

I'm failing to see the connection.

ElJanitorFrank3 votes

Guess what? They said the same thing about Yasuo, the same thing about Lucien...

You know, anything with "Buff" or "Nerf" and the newest released champion should be banned from the forums for 2 weeks, because until then people won't know what they're talking about at all.

And that isn't a good example. All you said was that Jinx doesn't know how Bard works and died because of it. She didn't die because Bard is bad, she died because she, as a player, is bad.

Major Sparkles2 votes

Bard is so game-breaking good when people know how to use him.

arcinex2 votes

In all fairness, with Bard's acute damage you were better off staying in lane and helping out Jinx.

Why do ADC's flame Bard supports? Because a majority of Bard supports roam at the wrong time and all the time.

Kitten of Evil2 votes

Basically this. When your ADC is a Corki who cannot avoid being Blitz grabbed, Nami bubbled, or Thresh hooked, even the best support might be able to save you once, or twice... but when you KEEP failing to dodge CC, there's no support who can save you everytime. In my experience as Bard, most ADC deaths actually happen when I'm near my ADC.

SenpaiAzir1 votes

Bard just came out a few days ago, give him some time. It's not your fault that Jinx died, it's her fault because she is the one that chased after Nami and died because of that. Helping with dragon is the right thing to do because objectives are important, not kills. I don't know why Jinx didn't help with dragon in the first place.

She said that you are a useless support because she was one that decided to chase her. Seems like a crap ADC that just blames on other people for her mistake.

zane yalgir1 votes

bard is a okay champ any problems with bard can 90% be blamed on allies thinking him a troll champ the last 10% are the real trash that are abusing him to piss of allies

Zahz1 votes

I cant wait till bard settles. that ult is just as much a trap as an advantage. Missed my ult at least 8 times last night because my teams bard would zhonya their team allowing my ults to pass right through

rtbf2216514121 votes

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The Jinx on my team ran past 3 healing shrines chasing after the enemy Nami, running into a huge minion wave and being attacked by the enemy ezreal while I was helping with drag and she died. She told me i'm a useless support.

Please buff Bard he's terrible at helping ADC's win fights they shouldn't be in. He ult needs to heal allies hit as well plz Rito

Sounds like Jynx needs to L2P. Not saying Bard is good or bad, but wow.

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

Correction: Please delete Bard from the game... Waste of space and designed exclusively for LCS. Sub-LCS class players will never use him right...

Ahri Carries All1 votes

I think you're not giving the community (especially the High Elos) any credit here. No one besides Challenger-level players, Riot Employees and anyone on the PBE are gonna know how to handle Bard as a Champion. He's a wonderful champion, but you don't know how to wield him. Don't go making these sorts of comments, it really doesn't help in this thread.

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

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I think you're not giving the community (especially the High Elos) any credit here. No one besides Challenger-level players, Riot Employees and anyone on the PBE are gonna know how to handle Bard as a Champion. He's a wonderful champion, but you don't know how to wield him. Don't go making these sorts of comments, it really doesn't help in this thread.

I didn't say I could or couldn't handle him personally... since I only play female champs I wouldn't even try anyways: What I am saying is that Bard's skillset was designed only to be effective in highly coordinated teamplay which only exists at the top levels.

To use Bard right means that your team needs to know what you are about to do with it. It isn't just spam Blitzcrank pullchain, kill the out of positioned player, and steam the map and gg. Bard Requires precision to be effective... something that will never happen at sub challenger ranks (esp solo Q) and therefore is just a troll to this game.

So yes... please think about the details of the consequences before spam replying to me post....

Ahri Carries All1 votes

I'm not following. If Jinx dives for a kill, and blames Bard Support when she dies, that's a pretty vague description of the situation. A lot of situations need to be considered.

For one, did Bard have his Ultimate. If he did, he could have casted it on the tower, as 2.5 seconds is waaay more than enough time for a good Jinx player to finish their target off and use the passive movement speed proc to escape before the Ultimate wears off and the tower resumes attacking.

Second, was Bard even there. Oftentimes, most low-level Bards go a-roamin' with no real goal in mind and don't do a few things to set their laner up for success while they roam. That is on the support to communicate intentions. If he communicates his intentions, and leaves some heals behind for Jinx to take if she needs them, and she ignores this, it's all on her.

Trash MammaI1 votes

For one, did Bard have his Ultimate. No, it was an early drag

was Bard even there. It's in the post..I was helping with drag

greyfang1 votes

i was just thinking his early base damage could be buffed a little enemy has gotten away with 3 or so health cause my damage was too low i like everything else about him

HLW eugene21 votes

Bard ate some summoner 31 item 2009

Stepping1 votes

Bard is like a jungle support almost, he can place shrines where the jungler needs it and the jungler can use the magical journey when bard is roaming for chimes. It just makes sense.

NiDzAtHeReEpEr99

I agree with the idea of his ulti giving his teammates a litle buff, because Its useless if you want to save an ally that's getting chased, chances are that you will hit him with your ult as well as enemy that's chasing him, so a speed/health buff would help, or even a slow to the enemy. His damage needs to get buffed alitle as well, after my whole team died exept me playing bard, as well as the whole enemy team, I was unable to defent our inhib from 2 waves of creeps. His passive didnt help that much, i had 75 meeps and after 3 basic atacks I was left with nothing to defend with, I even tried using my ulti, but that just delayed the inhib destruction for 2.5 seconds. He will be strong in coordinated teams, but every time i play bard I do great in the laning phase, but my team needs to carry me super strong in the late game, I main supp and i never felt as bad in the late game like the time i play bard. I feel like riot only changes the champs for LCS, it barely touches the champs that are op/week in ellos below challenger :/

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