Can we have some build variety?

Doodlzzz··2 votes·544 views

I'm talking AP Tristana buffed, Tank Heimerdinger made viable, AP ratios on JarvanIV increased, AP Gnar made better Taliyah with AD scalings on her q and e and much more...

these days, a champion only really has one set of items available to them and the freedom of purchasing whatever you want is gone.

Rito pls, bring some variety in our item choices.

8 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

sure... but in order to do so they cant have the same scalings on their main identity of their kits cuz then they would have too much and be considered "op" "broken""anti-fun" "cancer"

Doodlzzz1 votes

My ideal situation is where the meta build is best but there also other sightly less effective, but still good builds out there.

Tank Gnar is one champion, AP Gnar is a completely different one.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well you can do that already...

but you sacrifice for doing so... but it has been an increasing trend of riot to take away ap ratios from ad champs and so on

but tank gnar has never not been a thing what people cried about was tank frozen mallet gnar

but like back in the olden days where AP YI MID was a nightmare due to the stupidly high AP RATIOs he was damn near impossible to build against due to the mixture of damages, and other things and they have kinda been removing some of that from the game

but they claim in the new rune system with adaptive runes if you have somewhat a hybrid champ that if you wanna do off meta builds it would be more favorable with the new runes

aZ3R0n1 votes

POOF

You have tons of items to choose from across several different types and categories.

Amazing! PogChamp

Doodlzzz1 votes

exactly; why not?

Rewt1 votes

AP trist is an interesting one. I think it would be beneficial to Keep the current AP scaling of E, but increase the AP ratio by .02 for each stack of the E Charge. So it gets another .1 to the scaling on 5 stacks. (These are random numbers but yea. The concept is if you charge it the AP ratio will increase)

Tank Heimer was cancer. Fuck that shit. Its one of those things that was just awful to play against. It was on Proxy singed levels of Making the laner want to just quit the game. He would just rush a Zz'Rots and get tanky and all he would do is split push ALL game. It was infuriating to play against if the enemy team could hold their own. And infuriating for his team if he wasnt able to get things done with the split push because they were fighting a 4v5 while heimer jacked off in top laner all game.

AP Jarv..... Isnt that just the shield? Its honestly AP Lee levels of troll build. Its one of those things that sure, they could make it better, but you are probably going to get reported if you play it.

AP gnar is player but its not JUST ap. because the AP is on the W its more of a Hybrid AP AS build which is fine. In its current state is actually pretty decent if you dont get dumpstered in lane due to his low damage early.

AD taliyah...... I need to say something about giving AP champs AD hybrid stuff.

The problem with giving an AP champ AD hybrid is because it incentivizes building AD. Now AD is consistent damage. Because Autos are consistent. And most AP champs are balanced around the idea of burst and Leave. When you give them AD options it makes them overall a stronger champ. We have seen this in the Katarina rework. Im always wary about giving an AP champ AD scalings. I think giving AD champs AP scalings is fine due to them already being balanced around their consistent damage output and adding AP will often be turned into a bit of a squishier bursty champ. But they sacrifice some of their consistent damage that they are balanced around.

Now I will say my favorite off meta build IS and AD version of an AP champ.

I love playing AD Kassadin. Its a bruiser build that relies on auto attack resetting with his W. The great thing about this build is that you become a super sticky bruiser that is near impossible to escape. You just hunt people down and auto them to death. Add in an Iceborn gauntlet and you are set.

Mysticman891 votes

Ap jarvan gets a butt ton of flag damage.

It's remarkably effective (which I think is rediclous) in aram if the team doesn't need a tank.

Evil White Man 1 votes

Ah the good old ap sion, I remember shitting on people with a tiny speck on the screen

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