Like seriously what the fuck. I'm highkey tired of playing kat getting one shot by draven, Playing Diana and getting melted by twitch. Playing leblanc and getting blown by literally everyone who isn't 
. Playing mid lane assassins is fucking garbage like ???
AFK Push6 votes[deleted]
Succubús GF3 votesSo the point of my post is suddenly not legitimate b ecause of one match? K cool
AirKingNeo2 votesProof of bias lowers credibility.
Succubús GF3 votesHardly considering I provided other champions? I could source the Diana game? I didn't even get stomped I just got melted repeatedly by twitch without even being able to react to it. Leblanc is piss fucking poor as a champion and you know it.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesWhy should we address fiction...?
BerylCrab3 votesYeah! when are we going to make all champions scale exactly the same and function exactly the same!! all champs should be tank assassin ad carry ap carry and support rolled into one!!!!111
TWITCHTV ERONATE11 voteswhat the fuck are you talking about
ADCs ARE currently scaling exactly the same. crit item + ie and you have a lategame champ. nerfing their items will bring diversity also thats not an argument for a class being broken. lets just make a class broken as fuck just so it doesn't scale exactly the same as others, what a genius mastermind
BerylCrab2 voteswhat the fuck are you talking about
ADCs ARE currently scaling exactly the same. crit item + ie and you have a lategame champ. nerfing their items will bring diversity also thats not an argument for a class being broken. lets just make a class broken as fuck just so it doesn't scale exactly the same as others, what a genius mastermind
You have trouble reading and comprehending what you've read.
TWITCHTV ERONATE5 votesthen maybe stop using your weirdass sarcasm and let me understand what you actually meant?
BerylCrab2 votesthen maybe stop using your weirdass sarcasm and let me understand what you actually meant?
Heres the thing, marksmen start the game off very weak. other classes do not. lets put it into terms you might understand, monetary ones.
Lets say I can choose between two options for a financial plan for my life.
Option 1: I start with 500,000 dollars, but only make 30,000 dollars a year after that.
Option 2: I start with 100,000 dollars, but I make 60,000 dollars a year after that.
This of course would be a crude explanation of how scaling works. If you start with more power, you gain less as the game goes on, which is only fair. It would not be fair to someone who started with 100,000 dollars for someone to start with 500,000 and make 60,000 a year. There would be no way to catch up, and it would only serve to cater to people who don't want to work for their money (power)
nm10104 votesRanged characters with warlords sustain and decent-good damage, some even get mobility to make sure they have a way to avoid any aggression unless they suck. They aren't nearly as weak early as they should be because of the large amount of safety they have been given.
TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votesthis is actually good in theory but it's not actually applied in game unfortunately. i don't suggest nerfing adc's at all, just make their itemisation more expensive and changing shiv to deal less damage to champs and more damage to minions
MLDzXnRRR2 votesThe problem is in the items.
skyskee0082 votes???? Katarina 1 shots the shit out of any ADC from gunblade until forever unless they have a support on them.
Starboyˇ1 votesCrit lethality zed is pretty good
ganggoink1 votesNo adc in this game has as much burst as an assassin like zed, talon, fizz or even Leblanc, kha.
The burst is high enough, shields and heals are the problem.
You guys complained when Janna nerfs were on the pbe, you guys cried when Lulu got complained about with her point and click kit, you guys don't want support itemization nerfed, you guys just need to accept that support champions are the major issue.
I assure you, the moment we nerf Janna, Lulu, coin, soraka, ardent that adc won't be a problem any more. I'll bet my nuts on it.
Succubús GF5 votesLeblanc takes 2 seconds for passive proc burst. In that time frame draven can auto me 2+ times for double the damage she could ever do so you just are simply wrong there.
No adc in this game has as much burst as an assassin like zed, talon, fizz or even Leblanc, kha.
I don't recall ever complaining about support nerfs but honestly I don't think they are the major problem. It's just the fact that they can have the burst of a melee crit champion, but ranged. It's infuriating and just blatantly stupid that they get sucha huge burst window with no repercussions
You guys complained when Janna nerfs were on the pbe, you guys cried when Lulu got complained about with her point and click kit, you guys don't want support itemization nerfed, you guys just need to accept that support champions are the major issue.
ganggoink1 votesThen you play bad, you can simply e him with three chains, use your empowered aa, gun blade then zhonias so he can't heal up on you. He will die and can't survive that.
Succubús GF3 votes"Then you play bad" Okay bc 200k points Is bad. You sound dumb. To land three chains will take multiple seconds and wont do enough damage.
ganggoink1 votes200k mastery points don't say anything about you, Leblanc definitely isn't underpowered and can kill adc if you're creative enough. A few days ago there was a master lb main on Reddit front page who explained that it isn't hard killing adc late game if you play properly and don't miss your stuff.
Succubús GF3 votesThe thing is YOU HAVE to hit everything. You probably have to blow a summoner too. While also using everything you have. Then she has to wait for another rotation, seems like a worse form of old lb
ganggoink1 votesLb is far from weak, she doesn't lack burst, cc, mobility. Just be creative. That's what the master lb main said.
Succubús GF2 votesShe is the "Ryze " of assassins. She got complained about nerfed into oblivion and of course, still playable but weak in terms of assassins. Just as ryze is weak in a pool of mages
2Charmnot2Charm2 votesThe burst is high enough
Too bad riot delayed assassins damage because "muh 1v1 counterplay" now marksmen can just auto attack you 3 times to 100-0 you while you're waiting for that burst damage to activate LUL.
BerylCrab1 votesThis is what happens when everyone complains about marksmen, they buff tanks to the point where they HAVE to buff marksmen before it becomes league of tanks.
Reaper Soraka1 votesIncrease the value of damage transferred from Knight's Vow and increase damage dealt by assassins?
That way they deal more damage but a support can still be useful by sacrificing themselves to reduce damage to the adc. Damage from the burst will still be null once the support finishes locket in addition. hmmmmmmmmmmmm
How about reducing damage dealt by adcs? That way an assassin can kill them before they die. But then the support is left alone with no damage...free double kills then? um...
We could increase the tankiness of assassins, but I don't think anyone liked playing against Fizz tanks. They didn't deal assassiny damage but they could live long enough to assassinate kill a target. idk we've been down that road.
Is the problem too much vision? in my opinion If the full build adc sees the full build assassin coming and the assassin doesn't know it, the assassin should die. The adc had enough time to react. So if we lower the vision it really just hurts the adc/support.
balance is too difficult for me. If you change one thing it has an affect on all other things.