Shows on how much they understand about the game.
Jhin is too strong at all phases of the game, hes strong early mid late and has utility AND more effective range than caitlyn.
Out of every adc why does board has to defend one of the most overloaded adcs?
For reference (plat and above stats) :
Cait pick rate : 17% Cait win rate : 48%
Jhin pick rate : 55% Jhin win rate : 52%
Mira Arya Enthe16 votesThe boards defend whatever MM, Rubick and a couple other memelords tell them to.
Mira Arya Enthe6 votesDon't feel too bad buddy, whenever you post in gameplay at least it has the decency to go -20000 votes like my threads. :D
Ahristocats2 votesrubick memelord boards following me
choose one
TyrekGoldenspear3 votesI would pick rubick, but i dunno what that is.
Malicious Metal7 votesNot even I could make 'em defend Riven.
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesAt least you tried. You told em to play Morde and Riven wouldn't be a problem if I remember ;P
GULAG 4 U5 votesNah you could. You just aren't realizing what you can do.
TyrekGoldenspear12 votesExcept you're wrong mate.
Jhin isn't overloaded.
He carries exactly 4 bullets. No more.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesHe carried four bullets in his gun and four bullets in his rifle.
Last I checked, that would be eight.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesThat is 2 x 4.
Double the perfection.
Mizaya10 votesJhin fits in this meta more than cait. More utility, doesn't need to rely on autoattacks in teamfights. In a different meta Cait could possibly be stronger. But as of right now Jhin is.
This board just likes immobile champions I suppose.
Ralanr7 votesWell mobile champions do have this annoying habit of mooning us as they dance around us.
TyrekGoldenspear4 votesWe need a mobile champ that does that. Or at least looks like it if you spam an emote.
warpenguin5553 votes~~Blood ~~Full Moon Yasuo
RexSaur4 votes[{quoted}](name=WE Mizaya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H04FeXvA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-02-17T16:33:56.457+0000)
Jhin fits in this meta more than cait. More utility, doesn't need to rely on autoattacks in teamfights. In a different meta Cait could possibly be stronger. But as of right now Jhin is.
This board just likes immobile champions I suppose.
Not really, whenever i suggest that jinx needs buffs (which she needs) everyone is like "BUT JINX is already very very strong!!!", never mind the 4% pickrate with a lower winrate vs jhin 55% pick rate.
Mizaya5 votesNot really, whenever i suggest that jinx needs buffs (which she needs) everyone is like "BUT JINX is already very very strong!!!", never mid the 4% pickrate vs jhin 55% pick rate.
Jinx has resets and is a hypercarry, two criteria which disqualify her from any consideration in the eyes of most of the players here xD. Jhin doesn't have the ability to pop off like Jinx so he isn't considered as much of a threat, even though in reality he is much stronger.
YCitizenSnipsY2 votesWe have already seen a meta where Cait was the strongest adc. Jhin was right behind her at number two.
ForgiveColour10 votesPeople actually think jhin was trash tier before lethality buff Lul
LankPants6 votes30% pickrate 51% winrate as well as a perma pick in competitive and high level play before the buff. He's had nerfs coming for a very long time.
Big Lincoln8 voteswhy can't I hate both?
doublelift fg7 votesLet me teach you the game son
jhin is shit in late game, especially with lethality Cait is stronger in early game, weaker in mid game, A LOT stronger in late game
"more effective range than cait" yup, 5 shots from 3000 range that can be blocked by the frontline, and his W has a long cd tell me more about effective range when cait has permanently 650 range, not that i complain twitch has 850 but twitch isn't bs in laning phase
While jhin is strong right now, let me tell you 2 things that will enlight you
cait is cancer to play against jhin isn't cancer to play against, i destroy him in a second with twitch
RexSaur20 votes[{quoted}](name=doublelift fg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H04FeXvA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-17T16:24:06.672+0000)
Let me teach you the game son
jhin is shit in late game, especially with lethality Cait is stronger in early game, weaker in mid game, A LOT stronger in late game
"more effective range than cait" yup, 5 shots from 3000 range that can be blocked by the frontline, and his W has a long cd tell me more about effective range when cait has permanently 650 range, not that i complain twitch has 850 but twitch isn't bs in laning phase
While jhin is strong right now, let me tell you 2 things that will enlight you
cait is cancer to play against jhin isn't cancer to play against, i destroy him in a second with witch
Stopped reading at jhin is shit late game.
Being able to 100-0 squishies/pseudo ashe ult with just ult or catch someone from 3000 range with W = shit tier late game
Being able to 100-0 squishies with 4th auto + Q = shit tier late game
doublelift fg6 votesBeing able to 100-0 squishies/pseudo ashe ult with just ult or catch someone from 3000 range with W = shit tier late game
Being able to 100-0 squishies with 4th auto + Q = shit tier late game
jhin isn't your problem then
you're your own problem due to not knowing how to play the game if you die to jhin by a single 4th shot or his ult
RexSaur9 votes[{quoted}](name=doublelift fg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H04FeXvA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-02-17T16:28:18.606+0000)
jhin isn't your problem then
you're your own problem due to not knowing how to play the game if you die to jhin by a single 4th shot or his ult
Him using ult from fog of war equals to me not knowing to play the game?
Man i do love your thought process.
doublelift fg10 votesyeah, if you're alone without anyone blocking his ulti as an adc then you don't know how to play the game
you're an adc main, and despite that you don't know the basic rule of playing an adc
MissingKayo4 votesYou're out of position. Your fault.
MissingKayo3 votesIt is. Thanks for noticing.
Ralanr9 votesStopped reading at jhin is shit late game.
Being able to 100-0 squishies/pseudo ashe ult with just ult or catch someone from 3000 range with W = shit tier late game
Being able to 100-0 squishies with 4th auto + Q = shit tier late game
Sounds like a normal adc in the late game to me.
chipndip115 votes"Jhin is shit in the late game"
http://pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-9/256/thinking-face.png
Shadòw6 voteshe is too strong and needs a nerf.
however he isn't nearly as toxic and frustrating to deal with as 
.
Meep Man6 votesI wouldn't consider Jhin overloaded. Not the word I would use to describe him. I would say slightly too large numbers. The slow on his ultimate especially should be modified or removed.
MissingKayo1 votesHis slow got nerfed on PBE.
NodirjonSattarov6 votesafter I saw a couple of posts defending Jhin I realized how hypocritical the boards are when it comes to certain champions. Due to that realization I am done making any attempts to reason with the 54% of Jhin players. I wish you luck
RexSaur4 votes[{quoted}](name=General KogMaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H04FeXvA,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2017-02-18T17:16:47.599+0000)
after I saw a couple of posts defending Jhin I realized how hypocritical the boards are when it comes to certain champions. Due to that realization I am done making any attempts to reason with the 54% of Jhin players. I wish you luck
It really isnt surprising so many ppl defend him, they are all abusing him to gain elo.
NodirjonSattarov2 votesthey justify his "4 shot mechanic" as something that gates him when in reality 4 shots + Q + W is all he needs to spell weave. His combos are anything but difficult since Q essentially substitutes for a 5 auto (has the same range as his autos too). When people say he's immobile they neglect to realize actual immobile champions (ie; kog'maw) that have NO access to mobility whatsoever. He gets MS per crit and W, an ability that can root (and is broken as shit sometimes due to terrain elevation) and an ult that slows. It's appalling that peole have the audacity to defend him as "fair"
The Scout Girl4 voteshow do defend 55 playrate and 52 winrate ? lolwtflmao
serenity74 votesBoards cry about a different champion every patch. Then they get nerfed. On to the next circle jerk like a bunch of salty sheep.
Grokmir3 votesThe only reason cait is that low is because lethality is too strong rn. The moment it gets nerfed her winrate will jump at least 2%.
Cait as a champion is 100% more cancerous than jhin.
HOWEVER, jhin definitely needs a nerf.
Danjeng3 votesJhin gets special treatment on these fourums.
warpenguin5552 votesGo back a 2-3 patchs when people were complaining about caitlyn to get the stats. they had about the same stats.
BTW Jhin isn't overloaded and is a much better sniper design in every way
Ambient Snow2 votesJhin is strong because He works with Lethality , cait doesn't
The issue also is that Jhin has a Q that does damage based off HP so he shreds tanks.. and his kit has multiple aoe/ multi target effects
Cait is straight single target and the problem with cait is her ult.
Honestly Riot needs to remove the bright red line that marks some one.
DoktorKaiser2 votesPeople dont like things that have low/no counterplay. Yes Jhin is broken, but its just his numbers. His design is great and not at all toxic, he has clear weakness and counterplay. Cait on the other hand is toxic and oppressive, she lacks any fun interactions, outplays or outsmarting, her headshot is a terrible mechanic considering her extreme range, her E proccing headshot rewards her for running away, her traps are just unfair, not broken, plain unfair to play against as they zone the entire lane, are hard to see for colorblind people (I have trouble seeing it on some skins, I have trouble with red/green) and have stupid hitbox for some huge champions such as Sion (yesterday I stepped on 2 in a row when I wasnt even close to them) and on top of all that shit they also proc the passive, which by the way pretty much 2-3 shots anyone early game. Caitlyin's kit is broken, its not just the numbers like Jhin, she is FRUSTRATING. Same shit as comparing Yasuo who is still cancer to play against even though he is shit with something like Zed who has clear counterplay...
IceKingChernobog2 votesMeanwhile i'm wondering when vayne is going to get a nerf and actual counterplay to her ult.
Twitch Chat2 votesbut Caitlyn's extra 100 attack range is so annoying unlike varus 2 screens range 900 damage arrow xd
Also it's not just the boards there was a 2k upboats Reddit thread about how just lethality needed nerfs and not jhin and varus. As if theyd be anything but tier 1 if they went back to essence reaver.
Skelenth2 votesI'm not gonna talk about High Elo, as that's a place I'd rather stay away from, but from an enemy point of view, I'd rather play against Jhin than Caitlyn. Granted, I'd also rather rip my own toenails off, make soup out of it and drink it through my eyeballs rather than play against Caitlyn. Her laning is extremely oppresive, while Jhin has defined weak moments and counterplay. Sure Cait may have some too, but they kind of go under in her lane-bully identity. He may be very strong at the moment and in the past, but that's a question of numbers, not design. Also, I believe most of his pick rate stems from how fun and rewarding it feels to play him. I don't get that when playing Caitlyn.
Anyways, you're kinda comparing apples with oranges: While there may be problems with Jhin, they're not the same as Caitlyns. What most threads about Caitlyn complain about is how unfun and oppressive she is to play against. Jhins main problem is that he's just too strong with current items/the inherent synergy with them in his kit. Caitlyns issues stem from her design, Jhins from his overall numbers.
RexSaur1 votesI'm not gonna talk about High Elo, as that's a place I'd rather stay away from, but from an enemy point of view, I'd rather play against Jhin than Caitlyn. Granted, I'd also rather rip my own toenails off, make soup out of it and drink it through my eyeballs rather than play against Caitlyn. Her laning is extremely oppresive, while Jhin has defined weak moments and counterplay. Sure Cait may have some too, but they kind of go under in her lane-bully identity. He may be very strong at the moment and in the past, but that's a question of numbers, not design. Also, I believe most of his pick rate stems from how fun and rewarding it feels to play him. I don't get that when playing Caitlyn.
Anyways, you're kinda comparing apples with oranges: While there may be problems with Jhin, they're not the same as Caitlyns. What most threads about Caitlyn complain about is how unfun and oppressive she is to play against. Jhins main problem is that he's just too strong with current items/the inherent synergy with them in his kit. Caitlyns issues stem from her design, Jhins from his overall numbers.
Jhin has been overpowered ever since his release with both crit and arpen builds.
Jhin is stronger than caitlyn in lane, how is caitlyn oppressive and jhin isnt when hes stronger, bursts harder, has more reliable CC and can kill you from 3000 range at lvl 6?
This is just pure biased view.
Ahristocats3 votesyou're the one who is biased bro
so please stfu and just return to play the game because if jhin kills you at level 6 from 3000 range you're incredibly stupid
i can't even know why i'm replying to this
