Why there isn't any Support AD itemization? My thoughts about it inside

Beats29··4 votes·597 views

Many people won't like this idea because it's "off meta", but I really believe this would be completly healthy for the game and even encourage new picks. Or if you don't want new items then make new enchantments for sightstone for example. That would be great.

Some picks like Pantheon, Ashe, Jarvan or Gangplank can be perfectly used as support for example. All of them have CC, harass, poke, peel... some even have steroids... Simply they aren't picked because of the lack of itemization. I really never understood this. Of course it should be studied well to not provoke a double ADC lane (Yes Ashe is an adc but she can be played as pure support, her passive even fits more on that role instead adc), but this is something that's missing on the game.

I mean, would you love something different on competitive play? Why do you think UoL had all that hype? Because competitive play needs something different. That's why AD Support items would help on that. As well stopping nerfing Sona Cough cough. Encourage new itemization Riot!

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UberAffe2 votes

Introducing support items that benefit AD based champs would bring some bruisers bot. While my first thought after realizing that was that "as an adc I do not want top lane bruisers going bot as support, its already bad enough having to deal with the mid mages." Which seems to point at a seperate issue. Support has classically been a utility/ tank role, but the introduction of ap support items has allowed for mages to do well in a "support" role. If ad support items were introduced it would make it that much less of a utility/ tank role which isn't exactly bad however it would change the meta quite a bit because the utility/ tank that used to be bot wont be there anymore.

In short: Introducing AD support items is also going to change the meta for more than just bot lane.

Rebonack1 votes

An AD support item would go along nicely with Zeke's.

Question is, what would its gold generation mechanism be?

Beats291 votes

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An AD support item would go along nicely with Zeke's.

Question is, what would its gold generation mechanism be?

I didn't even remembered that item. It used to be such a good item and fell out of favour so much :(

About your question... I really don't have a straight idea about what could be good and balanced at the same time. I sincerely believe I'm great giving good ideas that could work, but I suck at balancing in general.

Durzaka1 votes

an AD support that also getting AD support items would be ridiculously strong.

The problem is that AA scale directly with AD, meaning this would be a direct buff to manaless harass in lane, which really sucks. The closest we have is Thresh, and its half of his E that lets him do it every once in a while.

Rebonack1 votes

An AD Support item would make Kill Lanes quite a bit more attractive.

To that end, I think the best option for gold generation on an AD Support item would be to make it so the holder gains bonus gold on champion kills in some capacity. That would make it a rather high risk, high reward item.

Talamare1 votes

Just saying Zeke is INSANELY strong

Also, I would classify Black Cleaver as a solid AD support item

Rebonack1 votes

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Just saying Zeke is INSANELY strong

Also, I would classify Black Cleaver as a solid AD support item

It is, sorta. But I think we're talking about a starting AD Support item. A gold generation item like relic shield or whatever.

Talamare1 votes

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It is, sorta. But I think we're talking about a starting AD Support item. A gold generation item like relic shield or whatever.

Understandable, but either Relic Shield or Ancient Coin should be fine Maybe get an Avarice Blade mid game and try to steal some CS from available lanes to catch up in gold.

AccountaBilabudy1 votes

I agree. They should add at least 1 AD support item. I have no problem starting relic shield and going into Trinity Force on my Gangplank support but an AD item would be a lot better. Kill lanes would be more popular with brusiers bot, which I think could be a good thing for the game overall because you can slow down the ADC power curve a little bit if bruisers are bullying them bot lane early on.

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