So top lane kayn can evolve like 4~5 mins in now...

Rexxiee··2 votes·1,702 views

Not sure why but it doesnt seem very balanced...

Why did he needed such massive buffs again? Wasant he a fine jungler? Why break him in lane?

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ViciousSummoner8 votes

They buffed his transform time because if you fell behind as jungle Kayne you were literally useless.

ThePikol3 votes

So is KIndred and yet I don't see any buffs to Marks system

ViciousSummoner1 votes

In the case of Kindred it's more like Ryze in high elo. Give em an inch and they take a mile.

nelogis4 votes

And thats the way it should be with high risk high reward champs like Kayn.

Your Rhaast form is nuts, you should be heavily punished when you fuck up before getting to that form.

But no, game needs to be as unrewarding as possible when shutting someone down I guess.

130x1 votes

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And thats the way it should be with high risk high reward champs like Kayn.

Your Rhaast form is nuts, you should be heavily punished when you fuck up before getting to that form.

But no, game needs to be as unrewarding as possible when shutting someone down I guess.

Kayne IS NOT HIGH RISK. He is a cheap champion and never should have been made.

Kind of like a jg verson of yasuo.

nelogis2 votes

He is high risk, if you pick Kayn into Warwick jungle you can say bye bye to your own jungle.

Kayn needs enemies to fuck up because the only cc you have pre-transform is a shitty slow in which you snare yourself while casting.

That is high risk and he gets rewarded because his transform is nuts but when you just let him transform anyway even tho he got HEAVILY punished for picking him then you erase his high risk thing and he becomes AIDS to fight (Riot of course isn't willing to understand that concept)

Also I agree that Kayn has one of the most boring, stale, generic kits I have seen in any game.

The only thing "unique" about this guy is his Ult and transform. Rest of the kit already exists in the game or is just plain out generic and lazy design (wow he can walk through walls, what an engaging and fun mechanic ._. Talon Bard have a similar mechanic but are healthier and more unique than this crap)

130x1 votes

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He is high risk, if you pick Kayn into Warwick jungle you can say bye bye to your own jungle.

Kayn needs enemies to fuck up because the only cc you have pre-transform is a shitty slow in which you snare yourself while casting.

That is high risk and he gets rewarded because his transform is nuts but when you just let him transform anyway even tho he got HEAVILY punished for picking him then you erase his high risk thing and he becomes AIDS to fight (Riot of course isn't willing to understand that concept)

Also I agree that Kayn has one of the most boring, stale, generic kits I have seen in any game.

The only thing "unique" about this guy is his Ult and transform. Rest of the kit already exists in the game or is just plain out generic and lazy design (wow he can walk through walls, what an engaging and fun mechanic ._. Talon Bard have a similar mechanic but are healthier and more unique than this crap)

You can not compare an assasin with a God tier tank lol. Naw, he has super escapes, cc, his ult is invincivle with full cd reset and health steal. His movespeed is always high. He can kill you with 2 abilities and 2 autos any time.

High risk would be Khazix MasterYi Rengar They have 0 escapes once commited.

nelogis3 votes

That is after his transform, before it he has a shitty engage, a shitty cc, a shitty ult and shitty damage. He should be rewarded for getting that transform but lowering the amount he has to work for that transformation reduces the risk he needs to take.

Warwick will FUCK HIM UP in his jungle. That is the risk to picking Kayn, that your early pressure is very weak.

Kha'Zix high risk LUL Tell me whats high risk about walking stealthed 24/7 through your whole jungle without using an ult, then ganking a lane stealthed without having to use your leap and then leaping to either secure kill or get out.

Yes, very high risk I'm sure.

Revali4 votes

I think giving kayn potential laning isn't terrible, in ways it opens up a lot to him then just being Pidgeon holed into the jungle.

Salron2 votes

Yeah but that requires you to play as base Kayn for 5 minutes in lane which is the single most garbage champion in the game

Seems fair to me

Scuffleboard1 votes

If he evolves that fast, you're fighting him way too much.

Asterfix2 votes

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If he evolves that fast, you're fighting him way too much.

I mean his q is kinda hard to dodge, it has the lowest CD and he can just noclip for health.

Scuffleboard1 votes

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I mean his q is kinda hard to dodge, it has the lowest CD and he can just noclip for health.

If you can avoid a lot of early direct combat with him- try and pick a longer ranged top like Urgot and stay back- you can set him back without even killing him once because his transformation will take forever to come.

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