Can we talk about all the "anti kat" responses?

Succubús GF·Aug 30, 2018·1 votes·1,094 views

Let me just address this as; Kat has been NOTHING but nerfed. Not a single buff since her rework afaik Katarina mains literally just wanted to feel like their champion can be viable and non clunky

And I know what you are thinking "She's in a good spot stats wise" when lb got reworked, and nerfed, she was still ina good spot stat wise, people just didn't like her anymore because it wasn't fun to play and it was clunky as all hell. Similar to rengar the q felt out of place according to rengar mains

Like when rengar revert and lb revert happened there wasn't a whole lot of issues but bc katarina mains want to have similar results after getting fucked it's a crisis.

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OtterlyLostAug 30, 20183 votes

We can talk about them, sure. But it doesn't change how I and many others feel. She is fine. She doesn't need a buff. And honestly, bring Rengar and LB into this doesn't really help your argument as, personally, I didn't want them reverted. :/ Before they weren't apparently "fun" for the people who main them. Now they're only fun for the people who main them.

Katarina should not change or have any of her delays removed, period. They took a champion that, let's be completely honest, was face roll before, and actually turned her into a champion that requires skill.

ChilleeAug 30, 20181 votes

Katarina should not change or have any of her delays removed, period. They took a champion that, let's be completely honest, was face roll before, and actually turned her into a champion that requires skill.

I was with you until that last part. Katarina, in my eyes, is too obnoxious. As an all point and click kit, insanely moblie, manaless AP assassin with a lot of Aoes, and rather low CDs. Considering the VERY few Katarinas I see that are bad, It's safe to say she doesn't require that much skill. But hey, I understand people defending their champions.

OtterlyLostAug 30, 20181 votes

Oh I don't play her but I have a friend who does who struggles with her and he mains things like kassadin and Cassiopeia and ryze. The fact that most kats you play with are bad shows she requires some skill. She isn't garen who you can just pick up and faceroll.

But no, she shouldn't be buffed.

ChilleeAug 30, 20181 votes

Considering the VERY few Katarinas I see that are bad, It's safe to say she doesn't require that much skill

I did not say most kat's are bad... I said the exact opposite. The skill she requires is a little less than Yi, but Yi at least has weak early game, less aoe, and has mana. A champion like her should AT LEAST have mana then I'd consider her to have skill, considering she's the only AP Assassin to any costs other than CD. But, even with mana the whole spam abilities then E away seems easy. I'll agree that she doesn't need buffs.

Succubús GFAug 30, 20181 votes

Leblanc was horseshit and a bad kitemage after her rework. She deserved the revert if not some sort of buff.

Before they weren't apparently "fun" for the people who main them. Now they're only fun for the people who main them.

She takes skill. Play her and see what kat mains mean by clunky e's. People complain all day long about how it would leave little reaction time but her daggers are literally glaring indicators. You act like QoL changes would break her. Hint, it wouldn't But w.e

Katarina should not change or have any of her delays removed, period. They took a champion that, let's be completely honest, was face roll before, and actually turned her into a champion that requires skill.

P.S - You play tristana and talking about faceroll gave me a good laugh.

OtterlyLostAug 30, 20181 votes

Tristana cant 100-0 your entire team by slamming her face on the keyboard but okay, lol. Stay salty man; the fact of the matter is that Kat doesn't need anything and giving her QoL changes, such as removing delays on her abilities, would flat out be a straight buff that she doesn't need.

And LB wasnt horse shit; she was finally fair. Not that a kat main would care about fair, given the fact that you want to buff your champion by removing delays that allow people to actually fairly react to her and not get instagibbed. You know, counterplay. Who wants that, amirite?

That's the issue with Assassin mains. They dont want fair or balanced champions. They want champions that can be perceived as difficult and then try to hide behind that like a shield when people complain that their champs leave next to no reaction time and have the best counter play of "just dont be near them!"

No, LB and Rengar should not have been reverted and Kat should not have any changes made to her delays. Current Kat, as I said, actually requires skill and I would prefer to have that preserved.

Succubús GFAug 30, 20181 votes

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OtterlyLostAug 30, 20181 votes

I mean idgaf what you're gender is. Man, woman, tentacled alien child, angry pink haired SJW. You're still salty and toxic and reducing to badmouthing me just proves you cant argument my points, lol. Someone who is salty is salty regardless of gender.

So I'll say it again.

Stay salty man.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

haaaaaaalpAug 30, 20183 votes

The problem is that too many of the changes were straight buffs. Don't forget, QOL changes can make champions stronger than some number changes. There simply were not enough number nerfs to accompany the qol buffs to justify the changes. If you want lower cast times, you also need lower damage or higher cooldowns to counterbalance.

League has a problem where too often, it is buffing balanced champions to the level of top pick/ban champions instead of nerfing the top champions down to average power.