When your laner tells you not to fight someone, please listen.

Zerenza·Jun 21, 2018·47 votes·14,372 views

Like, being a jungle main myself, i hate when i see this.

Every so often i go ahead and play the role of a laner, usually top lane.

So when i'm either Backed, BECUASE YES SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO BACK! Or, my laner roamed, BECAUSE YES SOMETIMES LANER"S ROAM! Why does my jungler feel the need to 1v1 my laner at half HP? Like, i ping you not to, you do it anyway? When that happens to me while i'm the jungler, i avoid that dude like the fucking plague! Please, jungler's, from one of your own kind DO NOT FIGHT AN ENEMY LANER DURING LANE PHASE ALONE! YOU WILL DIE 90% OF THE TIME!

39 Comments

z63XnLCMwXJun 21, 201836 votes

"trust me" -ally jungler

Ally has been slain

SaiannaJun 21, 20183 votes

REPORT TOP NOOB. HE RAN AWAY!11111 TORLLL!111 TRRROOL!11 I'M DONE FCUK YUO!11

I've stopped playing this game like 2 years ago and i still remember the screams of the raped logic by certain players...

RalanrJun 21, 201818 votes

"I can take em."

No, no you can't and if you can then the risk is outweighing the reward. I know I've been guilty of this as well, but honestly, you really shouldn't engage someone if they have more resources than you (health, mana, etc). There are exceptions obviously, but that's why it's a case by case thing.

Need Gold 4 TentJun 21, 20184 votes

Depends though, if the laner backed after losing a trade, a trade is still a trade and he might be at half hp for an assassin jungler to clean up.

RalanrJun 21, 201813 votes

Like I said, case by case basis.

Need Gold 4 TentJun 21, 20184 votes

Yet, the thing is, some champs are capable of outskilling at low hp, just see hashinshin going 1v3 on Olaf and somehow winning. So it was theoretically a sound decision to go for it yet didn't turn out as it was supposed to. People make mistakes, or is that even a mistake? I mean it was calculated after all.

RalanrJun 21, 20187 votes

Again. It’s case by case.

NekoniClawsJun 21, 201810 votes

If I smashed that upvote button any faster I'd be legally required to marry it.

ZerenzaJun 22, 20181 votes

Your now required to marry it lol

TempName54846Jun 21, 20183 votes

if I had a quarter for every time I get mass back pinged before killing the enemy laner 1v1 ... well lets just say that billy wouldn't be the richest man anymore. no seriously shit like xin, k6, ww, graves can duel most laners.

ZerenzaJun 21, 20183 votes

Yes but at half HP when their full HP? And when that's how it usually happens? I don't care what champion you are if you have half HP, the only way you win that is if the enemy laner stands still.

Skins ProjectJun 21, 20182 votes

Eh, Udyr. Elise, WW post 6... There's a few.

Also gold difference...

I get you tho, a big point is that the laner normally knows better then the jungler how strong their lane opp is.

TempName54846Jun 21, 20181 votes

for WW for example it matters very little if his full hp or half hp.

Automated RivenJun 22, 20181 votes

That's what so many wws have said before they gank me and I oneshot them.

TempName54846Jun 22, 20181 votes

must not have been very good warwicks then.

Automated RivenJun 22, 20181 votes

Meh. So long as you don't get hit by ult and don't blow everything on the damage reduction he loses pretty bad to pretty much everyone.

TempName54846Jun 22, 20182 votes

i mean as someone who one tricked ww to dia i can tell you that the 1v1 is very heavily WW favoured

The Space CowboyJun 21, 20181 votes

They’re

z63XnLCMwXJun 21, 20181 votes

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Yes but at half HP when their full HP? And when that's how it usually happens? I don't care what champion you are if you have half HP, the only way you win that is if the enemy laner stands still.

Straight out slugfest or ganking a full hp enemy laner as a half hp jungle? I can usually 100-0 most non-tank champ playing Rengar no clown.

I Main SwainJun 21, 20182 votes

honestly this is one of the most annoying things about playing top lane. sometimes i will say that it may look on the surface like its possible, but then ill have times where my jungle will go in when im entirely out of mana and at half hp, or when half my abilities are on cd, and then after they die theyll spam ping missing on me and start all chatting about how trash i am for "just standing there" while they died to a "totally killable enemy"

CosnirakJun 21, 20182 votes

The silliest is when they watch me use all of my abilities, the last of my mana, and drop to low hp in a trade vs some low cd assassin with flash and ignite still up and I take a step back and ping 3 warnings. Then BAM my 50% hp jungler dives them under tower, dies without getting a kill, and ping spams me for not helping.

I ping an on cd ability I don't have the mana to cast to explain and their response is to say "trash" and spend the rest of the game flaming me because I can no longer handle my opposing laner solo thanks to the kill my jg gave them... [zombie-brand-facepalm] [sg-ahri-1]

Øni ŚenjutsuJun 21, 20182 votes

This also happens to me when I'm trying to cs a huge juicy wave and my jungler is like

"GO GO GO GO."

then he is like wtf when he suddenly dies in 2 waves of minions and a fking yorick...

thank god I dont rank so this was actually hilarious to watch until yorick got hyper fed. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

BestPudgeNAJun 21, 20182 votes

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Like, being a jungle main myself, i hate when i see this.

Every so often i go ahead and play the role of a laner, usually top lane.

So when i'm either Backed, BECUASE YES SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO BACK! Or, my laner roamed, BECAUSE YES SOMETIMES LANER"S ROAM! Why does my jungler feel the need to 1v1 my laner at half HP? Like, i ping you not to, you do it anyway?

I don't think i've seen this happen once ever. Granted i don't do this and used to main JG but still, like i see frequently laners not responded to ganks when they should but i don't think i've ever seen a jungler try to 1 v 1 laner when they have no chance of winning.

BobaFlautistJun 21, 20181 votes

Sometimes they're right, and sometimes they're wrong. I won't straight up follow their instructions, but I'll take a second to try to figure out why they think I can't win versus why I think I can, and reevaluate.

PhDs NutsJun 21, 20181 votes

"My top lane is farming 2 waves and a cannon minion under his turret. Time to take scuttle and question ping him for not following!"

M00ndanc3Jun 21, 20181 votes

just got out of a game last night were me and my adc had both died to mf and leona. they both had about half hp and were lvl 8. So my half hp jg Vi despite being pinged back ults in to try and assassinate the mf to be met with being cc chained while mf double uped her face in.

Troll for TrumpJun 21, 20181 votes

Works the other way too. Too many times I come in as Darius and people back off and just force me to just get focus-fired and instadie.

Unstoppable MonkJun 22, 20181 votes

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Works the other way too. Too many times I come in as Darius and people back off and just force me to just get focus-fired and instadie.

This, except they're the ones coming in to collapse and they run off randomly to farm while leaving me to get collapsed on.

SweedishGunnerJun 21, 20181 votes

The worst is when they give over double buffs to the enemy laner early in the game.

Seer of MindJun 21, 20181 votes

Enemy top laner roams I ping mia My jungler looks for them, finds them in small bush by mid Jungler 36% HP, 10% Mana "I can take em'" An ally has been slain And then I proceed to feed from that point on because i had a lead, but my jungler with a 5 KILL BOUNTY, died to my enemy laner. Fuck junglers.

CelebrimborrJun 22, 20181 votes

Warwick

MordepoolJun 22, 20181 votes

When they tell me that after being ganked under my tower. They can go fuck themselves

DuskDaUmbreonJun 22, 20181 votes

That's not what OP is talking about. He's not talking about them engaging on you, but on you engaging on them.

If I, as a laner, tell you not to gank my lane, for whatever reason, don't. Doesn't matter if you're ADC, support, top, mid, jg, top support, second jg, mid support, a "jungler" that's just giving all his camps to a laner, or any other role. If you do, you're an idiot.

If I tell you not to fight them .2 seconds before they hit you at mach 8, while you were actively avoiding them, I'm an asshole.

FNC Adrenaline Jun 22, 20181 votes

I AM a top lane main Darius and like you say bro is stupid , this days only kind play games like this and i hate that Riot Games let soo many noobs to polay awesome teamfight games like LOL

SpencerJun 22, 20181 votes

If it helps, signals are full blown mixed at this point.

In a ton of games, you're all but told not to help a certain lane only for that lane to start bitching that they've "been ganked 100 times, and report jungler for doing nothing to help".

As a jungler, we definitely fuck up (take fights we shouldn't, miss ganks that were easy, etc.)... but the burden put on us can be pretty damn insane. People aren't usually mad at top or bot for feeding until their third contiguous death, but if jungler dies once to a lane? "GG, jungle threw game".

Hell, I've had some pretty terrible games mid, and people don't say shit to me... but god help me as a jungler, if I happen to be bottom when the enemy jungler ganks top... It's mad thankless.

VvVVvVJun 23, 20181 votes

Yeah, I dont que for jungle but over the years I've pretty much played every role. Its frustrating having people that are just hardheaded and want to fight fight fight. They die...respawn and go right back to lane and try to fight the person that just killed them and is now even stronger then they were when they killed them the 1st time. And now they are behind items, gold and levels and pinging for help when they put themselves in that situation. So now you have to slow down farming just babysit them.

Even worse when its your adc that for some reason is running teleport and TPs right back to lane just to die again.

apollöJun 23, 20181 votes

My favorite is when I'm playing jungle and I ping I'm ganking a lane and the laner literally commits suicide right before I get there. Like please... just wait... 5 more seconds....

BeatzBoyFTWJun 23, 20181 votes

The one thing I hate junglers myself, is that most of the time, they never bothered to come pressure/gank my lane at all the first 10 minutes when I'm healthy af. Only when I burnt both my own SS & low on HP and Mana, only then this retarded jungler wants to come for a gank.