What if Zyra's passive wasn't triggered upon dieing, but upon ulting herself?

Kowe The Ewok··2 votes·896 views

Current:

  • Upon death, Zyra returns to her plant form for up to 8 seconds. After 2 seconds, she gains the ability to cast Vengeful Thorn using any learned ability. Rise of the Thorns VENGEFUL THORN - ACTIVE: Zyra spits a vengeful thorn in the direction of the cursor, dealing 80 + (20 x Zyra's level) true damage to every enemy it passes through. MISSILE SPEED: 1900 MISSILE WIDTH: 70

Suggested:

  • Standing within her ultimate upon activation, Zyra returns to her plant form for up to **3 **seconds, becomming untargetable but unable to cast her normal abilities. After 0.5 seconds, she gains the ability to cast Vengeful Thorn using any learned ability. Rise of the Thorns VENGEFUL THORN - ACTIVE: Zyra spits a vengeful thorn in the direction of the cursor, dealing 80 + (20 x Zyra's level) true damage to every enemy it passes through. MISSILE SPEED: 1900 MISSILE WIDTH: 70

(Basically a Lissandra-ish component)

  • Cons: No passive until level 6
  • Pros: Currently she is basically a passiveless champion whenever she performs well.. This way it's much more interactive.

9 Comments

OverpoweredSoap3 votes

I don't think it's really good idea tbh.

At level 6 she gets a zhonya's that she can possibly do damage with.

This would be a buff to support Zyra too, considering she uses it to peel most of the time, so she could just get off free damage with the knock up.

Even if I think her passive is kind of wonky in terms of "why would you make her passive this in the first place" it's okay the way it is now.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

Remember that her plant roots her in place, which makes her an easy target upon becomming vulnearable again. She also looses the ability to cast her normal spells (root... creating new plants) AND that she has to use her ultimate for it.

Hex the FenFen3 votes

when i think of her passive versus kog'maws passive i kind of just want to slam my face into a table, like really Rito? I mean her's is weaker AND a skill shot....like...really...come on

Quepha3 votes

i would rather have a passive that helps me keep from falling much farther behind than something that helps me win in a game i'm already winning.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

How about something that it always useful instead of only helping you in an extreme case? (Death)

Quepha1 votes

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How about something that it always useful instead of only helping you in an extreme case? (Death)

that will invariably be balanced to be less useful when falling behind because of power budgets, so no.

Kowe The Ewok2 votes

Because Riot cares so much about power budget Zed Fizz LeeSin

Quepha1 votes

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Because Riot cares so much about power budget Zed Fizz LeeSin

oh you don't like a few champions? well that's too bad

Abyssphere2 votes

It won't happen. Simply because of how moves are made: passives that only activate when used with a particular move will be a passive on that move or (if you're Soraka), another move on your kit. What you're suggesting would be a new thing to add to her Stranglethorns tooltip.

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