So, can we talk about Mordekaiser?

Rew711··1 votes·375 views

I want to ask some things.

Does his Q seem right to have with the nerf in MS? Or should I ask, is it right to nerf his MS when his Q got the change it got? Does anyone feel that his Q not giving much for a shield seems wrong?

Should his W really have a handy cap? Why does it not have a more impactful passive? Does it make Mordekaiser weaker? Is it even helpful or strong?

Is it right to have Mordekaiser's E still cost health? Does Mordekaiser's E seem less impactful?

Is the dragon pet really needed? Is it useful? Why can't Mordekaiser get other monsters as pets?

Does his passive seem weaker? Does it really help? Does it seem like it fits a tank more than a Fighter? By that, does it resemble Malphites only not as useful? Does it dwindle too fast?

Does Mordekaiser need to lose health for his abilities anymore after his rework? Is his spell vamp like it was? Can Mordekaiser still use AP like he use to? Does his position feel forced? Will Mordekaiser be able to cope with ADC's that out range him and even have better MS?

Was Mordekaiser weak before the update? Did the update help?


I've already asked this on the PBE boards.

I feel his W forces him to a supportive role, which is annoying, his Q lacks the wave clear it used to have, the dragon is excessively powerful, hit level 6 if you get dragon you can push towers like no tomorrow, it's really fucking overpowered and unnecessary, how are you supposed to counter that kind of skill? If his team gets drake you're almost guaranteed a tower or two, or even a champion since you can force it to attack the champions with it's insane damage.

– Sensei Apple

I now ask further:

Do you think Mordekaiser should have a supportive W with the kit he has?

Is his Q worse than it use to be?

If we did away with the dragon, what would you buff in Mordekaiser's kit and/or change?

4 Comments

Prospector Pete2 votes

His Q is a little... situational. While it does lack the waveclear his old Q has, later on the third hit can pretty much 1 shot anyone if you can get into range for it. His W is kind of odd, you have to cast it on an ally which kinda sucks, and it has a heal for some reason.

Rew7111 votes

So, what I'm hearing is, his Q has gotten weaker. The situation has to be in a good moment for his Q to deal the total damage unlike his original that gave smaller but good damage to 4 units or tons of damage to 1 enemy with no need for MS boosts. Unless you get good MS, the situation is broadened into two different groups. One is that the opponent must be either snared, trapped, fighting Mordekaiser, or close enough for his 3 stacks to be implimented. The other is that you need to build some bonus MS to get his Q in range. This is the main reason why champs like Garen, Poppy, and Skarner have MS boosts in their kit to allow gap closers for their individual damage boosts. Mordekaiser does have a MS boost in his W, but its as you later say, very odd.

For his W, which everyone, no matter how you look at it or who looks at it agrees this is not something that should be in Mordekaiser's kit and needs a change boost, or something to make it (as you put it) not suck. The W needs another rework in everyones opinion if its too OP for self casting.

Now, if you could, would you add a MS boost into his W that would allow better gap closers for his Q? Would you take away the heal and just allow a MS boost and area damage? Or keep the heal and make this a Mordekaiser only cast-able spell?

cStryker2 votes

no you don't have to cast it on an ally, you can selfcast it (I played him in Aram 14min ago...) and it will target the nearest ally as before edit: ok yeah u need an ally yu right

whats more disturbing is his completely lack of dmg with his e, I think I didn't make a single kill because his kit now is junk gl landing this q... haha just hilarious, changing a champ that was fking fine...

Rew7111 votes

So, do you think his E should gain a buff in damage?

How do you think his Q should be improved?

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