Instead we got an ult that teleports you once again... I hoped I would finally get a mage that I could main, and I like champs with strong dmg teamfight ults... Ahhh, it's a shame, at least for me, that zoe basically does dmg only with Q and passive. R isn't even useful to escape ganks since it brings you back..
NTrumpWeTrust8 votesShe is going to push out A LOT of traditional mages from the mid lane. Power creeped garbage. zzz
JJI7441 votesGoing to pretty heavily depend on her Q's interaction with creeps. If its blocked, she doesn't have any reliable waveclear or poke. If it passes through without damaging, no waveclear. If it does both pass-through and deal damage, that might make her strong midlane.
LordGeovanni2 votesCertainly T designed that what you think its gonna do take the less powerful of the 3 options.
JJI7441 votesI mean, I hope its the pass-through+damage, cause otherwise your looking at a champ destined for support or bust. Not having any for of meaningful wave-clear is crippling in any other role. Especially for AP champions since Luden's doesn't stack up next to tiamat/hurricane/shiv.
EDIT: You might, might, be able to pull of jungling with weak clear, but only if she is so strong you can take the EZ route of being so dominate early-game you can cheese and not need to worry about taking an age to kill raptors/Krugs.
LordGeovanni1 votesworry not you can one shot waves (and champs) with your ult and q gameplays are out already
RocketRelm7 votesTo be fair, Zoe's power budget means almost none of her power is in that ult. It's cute, but barely worth a basic ability.
Ravag34 votesAlso her ult has like a 10-6 sec cd on it so it is quite powerful in relation to her overall kit
and her sleepy trouble bubble gains distance if gone through a wall
Zerdun3 voteswhen you land a sleep spell you can R behind you Q then come back and bounce the Q onto the enemy champion since its damage is apparently boosted by range traveled. Outside of this the only use for R that I can think of is dodging skillshots
SwiftKitten881 voteswhen you land a sleep spell you can R behind you Q then come back and bounce the Q onto the enemy champion since its damage is apparently boosted by range traveled. Outside of this the only use for R that I can think of is dodging skillshots
yeah as a nidalee main that is the first thing i thought of, as back in season 3, as spears dealt damage based on your distance traveled where you where when it hit rather than when you threw it.. so you would gain more damage by walking backwards after u threw it (changes in patch 3.14)
zoe looks like a champ i would like, im ganna try her out!!
AwesomeGuyDj2 votesYou can use R to check bushes/over walls without using wards. I think it said this on the reveal page that you can use it to dip to one side of the fight to pick up the enemy redemption coin or whatnot,
LordGeovanni1 votesdodging skill shots renewing your passive activating your w (these 2 are are targeted high burst) point blank e shots Im waiting to see interactions with thresh lanturn and bard e tunnel because those aren technically moving but activateing something thresh w takes you when you are rooted in most cases.
TwitchInMyPants2 votesHer ult is 10/8/6s pre CDR and it enables picking up summoner bubbles, landing her burst orbs, recasting her Q, landing autos for her on-hit passive, and getting in range for her E. Its an extra normal ability but it basically enables her entire kit.
OurLestrade1 votesThe Swain rework is coming, keep an eye on that.
Aatrox Mid 1v51 votesAtleast you get to say omae wa mou, shindeiru
LordGeovanni1 votesbest excape is death to the enemy. Im gonna watch everyone keep calling zoe's ult bad until it comes out has a low cooldown procs her passive which along with q bonus damage more than makes up for not having a damageing ult and more damage when you pick something for w all of those skills did pretty decent damage for q being the only one you can dodge if you have a short cooldown dash cause q no doubt has a low cooldown. then there is gonna be that she can dodge influential skills by using ult she is still gonna have burst but she is more of a spam mage how her kit is designed burst mages are supposed to have damage down time and her cooldowns are most likely gonna reflect spam mage play style.
Teridax681 votesUnpopular opinion: I'm happy that Zoe isn't this champion who has a lot of both offensive and defensive power locked behind a high-cooldown ult, unlike, say, Evelynn. The fundamental problem with that kind of design is that it often means a champion is dysfunctional right up until that effect becomes available to them, which then leads to these extended periods of time where you feel both incapable of killing champions properly, and unable to survive fights if things go badly, while your ult's on cooldown.
With that said, I do not at all think Zoe is a burst mage. She's this hypermobile champion focused on single-target damage, which is literally the definition of an assassin. It's interesting that when Riot set out to redefine the assassin class with Ekko, they ended up producing a skirmisher/light fighter, and when they set out to redefine burst mages, the end result is an assassin. It's also worth noting that she has a huge number of mechanical similarities with Evelynn's kit: her CC is delayed after application and enhances the damage of her combo, she gets this three-part set of proximity-based nukes after casting one of her abilities, and her ult, while not a nuke in itself, is designed to let her get in, deal lots of damage via her Q, then retreat. Only time will tell how Zoe will fare, but I think she's going to play much more like an assassin than a burst mage in practice, and I sincerely hope the M.O. for further "burst mage" designs won't be to give them a bunch of mobility.
